LD1
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Everyone forgets this with their unfounded hatred towards half tons towing anything more than a jetski or logsplitter
Everyone forgets this with their unfounded hatred towards half tons towing anything more than a jetski or logsplitter
No kidding.2020 silverado half ton. 420hp/460torque, 10-speed auto, GCWR 18k, 2300# payload capacity, curb weight 5200#, 12k tow rating 13.5" rotors both front and rear
1999 F250 235hp/335torque 5-speed auto, 13.5k GCWR 2900# payload, 5400# curb weight, 12" front rotors, 13" rear rotors
1997 silverado 2500, 255hp, 330torque, 4-speed auto, 5200# curb weight, 7k tow rating, 12.5" front rotors and rear drums.
Yup....better just get an old 3/4 ton because they are bigger and heavier and stop better....lol.
Quit living in the past. If I had to tow a 10k load and had a choice of a 20-25 year old 3/4 ton vs a modern half ton.....the half ton wins.
No kidding.
My 97 F350 can't stop on a dime unless I have a telescope to see it miles ahead... discs in front, drums in the rear. I've read somewhere about using a brake booster from the same year F-Superduty (F450 equivalent) to get better braking but I don't drive it enough to invest much in it.
It's also only rated to tow 9900 if I recall (SRW 4x4) though "I'm sure it could pull a lot more than that" haha
I believe he is waiting on a couple quote from some heavy haul companies to make sure he can move his fully loaded dump trailer safely. According to this thread, turns out a half ton can't move it and will break in half...Amazing...154 posts...did we lose the OP?
What was the chosen way forward???
I mean, a bit silly to cherry pick stats like that. No one said we had to go back 25 years to get a 2500 to compare with a modern half ton. And you chose an absolutely top of the line half ton there, that's a $60k truck. For the same price you can also get a 2020 2500HD instead, that will nearly double those capacity numbers. Shoot my 2003 2500HD with the lowly base engine comes close to that GCVWR of a half-ton that is 17 years newer (and the 8.1L and 6.6L Dmax eclipse it).2020 silverado half ton. 420hp/460torque, 10-speed auto, GCWR 18k, 2300# payload capacity, curb weight 5200#, 12k tow rating 13.5" rotors both front and rear
1999 F250 235hp/335torque 5-speed auto, 13.5k GCWR 2900# payload, 5400# curb weight, 12" front rotors, 13" rear rotors
1997 silverado 2500, 255hp, 330torque, 4-speed auto, 5200# curb weight, 7k tow rating, 12.5" front rotors and rear drums.
Yup....better just get an old 3/4 ton because they are bigger and heavier and stop better....lol.
Quit living in the past. If I had to tow a 10k load and had a choice of a 20-25 year old 3/4 ton vs a modern half ton.....the half ton wins.
No, its not silly to cherry pick stats. It proves my point. There are literally dozens of ways to configure a truck, both half ton and 3/4 ton. So what is silly is the CONSTANT blanket statements that half tons are too small and you need a 3/4 ton.I mean, a bit silly to cherry pick stats like that. No one said we had to go back 25 years to get a 2500 to compare with a modern half ton. And you chose an absolutely top of the line half ton there, that's a $60k truck. For the same price you can also get a 2020 2500HD instead, that will nearly double those capacity numbers. Shoot my 2003 2500HD with the lowly base engine comes close to that GCVWR of a half-ton that is 17 years newer (and the 8.1L and 6.6L Dmax eclipse it).
I won't argue on the "stop better" point, newer trucks definitely have stronger brakes! Still, the frame size, suspension capacity, and weight of the tow vehicle all factor into towing dynamics as well. Doesn't matter how big your brake rotors are if they are trying to lock up while your truck gets jacked all around. And yes, you can put load range E tires on your half ton... but how many people actually do that?
I find the fact that we are debating whether a half ton can tow the OPs load rather amusing. Because he showed us all directly, how his can't. He can't handle the proper amount of tongue weight for safe towing of his load, Period. Could some max'd out levers on a WD hitch, or helper air bags keep him more level? Sure, but that is only masking the inherent under capacity of the base vehicle itself. Am I wrong?