jlsmith
Veteran Member
I agree with you cdaigle430. They buy the cheapest oil and filters they can find and then cry becuz the tractor isnt working wright and they are having trouble with it.
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I agree with you cdaigle430. They buy the cheapest oil and filters they can find and then cry becuz the tractor isnt working wright and they are having trouble with it.
rjmack
Platinum Member
better yet, what if i built something using an already existing design and then gave it an obscure part number and charged 3-5 times as much as what quality versions of that same part were selling for at the corner auto parts store.
don't the auto parts guys down the street deserve a little loyalty too?
imagine a corporate executive who came up with a program where a corporation such as massey ferguson effectively subsidized their customers by providing competitive pricing on quality consumables, rather than gouging them at every opportunity.
is there no advantage in bringing already existing primary item customers back in the door with a carrot as opposed to a stick?
seems to me the old saying that 'you know what' runs downhill, is being spun around to where the customer is supposed to accept the fact that they will always pay extra so that some freeloader can get a whopping dividend.
why should the concept of destructive welfare be excluded from the shareholders' meeting?
i think maybe it's taking longer for some people, rather than others, to recognize that the perception of entitlement has infested the stock markets of the world.
maybe it's time for shareholders to start giving a little themselves?
btw, i paid cash for my machine... did you?
the concept of becoming a debtslave just so somebody i don't even know can get rich is foreign to my being. i don't ask for welfare, so why should i feel obliged to pony up when somebody in a mansion demands welfare from me?
I don't think most people are out to buy the cheapest stuff they can find. It just appears that way to some.
There seems to be 2 groups:
Those get gratification by buying top quality. Either only OEM, or the most expensive maintenance products they can find, irregardless of whether it matters or not.
And, those those who get gratification from beating the system, They believe there are times when people are being taken advantage of, and they are shrewd enough to avoid it, by buying an equivalent product for less money.
Both sides often think the other side is completely nuts. :confused3:
Often times, both sides out smart themselves.
There seems to be 2 groups:
Those get gratification by buying top quality. Either only OEM, or the most expensive maintenance products they can find, irregardless of whether it matters or not.
And, those those who get gratification from beating the system, They believe there are times when people are being taken advantage of, and they are shrewd enough to avoid it, by buying an equivalent product for less money.
Both sides often think the other side is completely nuts. :confused3:
Often times, both sides out smart themselves.
jlsmith
Veteran Member
Shure the auto parts dealer needs alittle to. I dont expect you to go to your tractor dealer to get car parts either. Doesnt your tractor dealer need the same respect your givin the auto parts dealer. And i dont believe the auto parts dealer is going to answer any question that come up when your tractor breaks down or tell you how you can fix it either. If your not helping your local tractor dealer by buy parts from him how long do you expect him to stay around and then do you expect him to offer free advice to someone not buying his products.
jlsmith
Veteran Member
And yes i paid cash for the last 3 tractors i bought along with the attachment i use in the field.
jlsmith
Veteran Member
That is true to a point. Ive seen customers come in and buy the cheapest hydo oil i have to put in a new tractor. I have told them that that oil is not as good as the MF oil i sell and their words are (oil is oil no matter what color the bucket is. Its all the same.) a few days later they are calling wondering why their tractor isnt working wright and i tell them its cuz of the oil. Now they come in buy a new filter and new oil thats made for that tractor and now their time to change it all out again and then they are back in buisness. And it doesnt matter which brand tractor you go with they all have special products for there tractors. Its not like the older ones that will run and operate on anything you put in them.:thumbsup:
rjmack
Platinum Member
good point.
amen brother :thumbsup:
again, that's a two way street.
who would have ever thought asking for a part number would have stirred up such a ruckus?:laughing:
jlsmith
Veteran Member
Verry true rjmack. Im just glad this is a site were we can agree to disagree and still come out friends and have other chats on other threads. But im a dealer and have to stick up for other dealers as well. We are not all bad and do try to help the customer as much as i can. :thumbsup:
rjmack
Platinum Member
well said.
True to a point?
Do you not see that guy is: "The one who gets gratification from beating the system, They believe there are times when people are being taken advantage of, and they are shrewd enough to avoid it, by buying an equivalent product for less money".
Your warning went unheeded, because he thinks you are trying to out smart him by selling him a more expensive product than he needs. Why else would he ignore your waring? If he believed it wound not work, he certainly would not buy it.
And as I said, and your story showed, sometimes they out smart themselves.
I am also sure many times things work out like they planned. Giving them the incentive to keep thinking this way.
Don87
Elite Member
I'm only 'half nuts' (I think)
I'm 'in the know' about filter quality. So i'm not opposed to paying a lot for a filter.
But, on the other hand, I just went the cheap route. The filter was plugged on my log splitter, and I needed one ASAP...........Cost me a whopping 8 bucks at Napa for a "comparable" filter. The filter I had on it was a 'Luber-Finer' costs 26 bucks.
The Napa filter is only temporary!
madhatter
Gold Member
I agree
$20K+ for your INCREDIBLE ( I own a GC2310 ) new tractor... $20.00 tranny, $18.00 engine filter every 150 to 250hrs. Not a big deal IMHO. If you want to buy different oil than Massey... fine, then buy Shell or AMSoil..... BUT, do you really want to cheap out when you just spent that much coin on your SubCompact ??? They are not cheap ! Partially because it is niche market. There is so much "cheap/inexpensive" goods out there now adays, they are cheap for a reason.... throw away goods.... sad to say, but it is the way it is nowadays....
The reason that does not make sense, is that is not what they are doing. That is what your perception of what their doing is.
Again, to them, they are just looking to not get ripped off, and pay up to 5 times as much, for the same thing. Which is what they perceive you to be doing. They think that is stupid.
No, your not going to shame them into thinking like you, it doesn't work that way.
This all makes perfect sense if you people try to follow me in this. :thumbsup:
rjmack
Platinum Member
NAPA Filters : Oil Filters
i think 56 years is a little more than 'temporary'.
and no, i'm not trying to sell napa filters... if anything i'm kind of partial to fram, but that's not the point. most aftermarket filters are perfectly good quality.
don't be surprised if agco has contracted the manufacture of ALL their filters to one of these larger aftermarket companies.
maybe the need to have this debate after so many years is what is nuts.:laughing:
Since I started this mess perhaps I should clarify my intention. I wanted to know how hard it would be to find parts if my dealer went away. Are there other MF dealers who will ship parts? And , what if any parts can be sourced from other places, NAPA, AMSOIL, TSC?
BTW, I know better than to cheap out on parts. Also, I think every well run business deserves to make a buck for providing good service,
BTW, I know better than to cheap out on parts. Also, I think every well run business deserves to make a buck for providing good service,
Sorry, just so you know, threads that go way off topic are not uncommon. :thumbsup:
You will always be able to find parts somewhere. I am in Alberta, Canada and would be happy to send parts to you. E-mail me if you need any help with anything.
tyler@pentagonfarm.com
