Mine and Not Yours.

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   / Mine and Not Yours. #111  
Well the great migration has started. My neighbor sells real estate and sold 7 properties to people from California just last week.

They're everywhere! They're everywhere! We even have a group on our "Neighborhood" website of folks from California..."Caliokies" I call them. Have had experience with them before, when my company bought a small California company and moved their R&D folks to OKC. All they did for a while was complain and hide from tornadoes, but after about three years you couldn't not have moved them back under any circumstances.
 
   / Mine and Not Yours. #112  
Well the great migration has started. My neighbor sells real estate and sold 7 properties to people from California just last week.

Very true... both of my brothers with their wives visited property... one looking around Sisters Oregon and the other Idaho... both already know people there.

Two docs just bought their retirement spreads... old farms again Oregon and Idaho...

Depending on how people feel about elections there could be a stampede... or not.

Several have already said they will be away election week... simply don't want to be in SF/Oakland...

One is making plans for Idaho and I asked why as she and family regularly participate in protests and demonstrations...

Maybe maturity brings different prospectives on things... or maybe looking to abandon ship.

Cities hit very hard in part due to density...

The last 3 years it has been AZ destination number one but have not heard much this year..

Only hope it's not the same as when Americans travel abroad perpetuating the Ugly American which I have seen first hand.
 
   / Mine and Not Yours. #113  
Well the great migration has started. My neighbor sells real estate and sold 7 properties to people from California just last week.

My biggest fear living in B. C.......Californians would move in and we may not even notice!
 
   / Mine and Not Yours. #114  
I have a real good friend who moved from Ca. to Texas about 5 years ago and in a short time fit right in, now he cusses the Californians moving in at least as much as the native Texans do.It all depends on the person and what kind of baggage they are packing along. Out here in rural San Diego county the people moving in from Orange county catch a lot of grief when they want to bring in their O.C. ways and change the status quo.
 
   / Mine and Not Yours. #115  
There was a time when TX was the promised land... not saying no longer a destination because know plenty in Austin/Round Rock...

Attitude and stepping up done carefully is a good start.

The gravel road to my place in WA is shared with me at the end.... mentioned I planned to get rock to my neighbors and if it would be OK to fill potholes with any left over.

Mom was 82 at the time and couldn't wait to get out with a wheelbarrow rake and tamper each morning...

All I can say is she was more than welcomed and in 3 days knew more people than I did...

Some would stop and she would say she grew up on a family dairy farm and we were in...
 
   / Mine and Not Yours. #116  
Well.... Finally home from my Florida project. Was leaving the house this morning with wifey and the girls to go for a ride; sure enough at the end of the driveway there was my new neighbor who hasn't seen me since he moved in. I had the window down so it wasn't hard to give him a big wave; he didn't even acknowledge my presence... simply cut into his driveway with nothing as much as a head nod. Some people just aren't friendly or neighborly. It'll be the last time I wave, that's for sure.

I'd tell him "GOOD MORNING", "I SAID, GOOD MORNING!" with a bullhorn from about 6 feet away. Rudeness has become the norm.
 
   / Mine and Not Yours. #117  
I have a real good friend who moved from Ca. to Texas about 5 years ago and in a short time fit right in, now he cusses the Californians moving in at least as much as the native Texans do.It all depends on the person and what kind of baggage they are packing along. Out here in rural San Diego county the people moving in from Orange county catch a lot of grief when they want to bring in their O.C. ways and change the status quo.

It is not necessarily moves from state to state that draw local attention. Thirty four + years ago we moved from Los Angeles to the Sierra Nevada foothills in central California - a major change of environment and culture - sold the Benz and bought a pickup and tractor. People wondered about us, and likely talked about us, but we have settled in nicely - mostly to ourselves, though with kids in school you do meet and mix with people.

Interestingly, the first real close friends we made up here were one couple from Los Angeles and another couple from San Francisco - connections there were through our kids and theirs. Like us, they love the rural life and work hard to maintain it - we brought our work ethic with us. There are also many up here whose families have been here for generations. Many types, many lifestyles, many opinions, and a range of 'homesteads' that range from genteel country to what I would characterize as proprietary junkyards. We are mostly content to stay home and enjoy our bucolic lifestyle - rarely mixing with more than our two close couple-friendships. With 90 acres we really have no neighbors and neither cause nor see waves.
 
   / Mine and Not Yours. #118  
Well...I guess I can tell my tale of woe here! and get some good ideas or thoughts.
We've been here 40 years, know everyone around. Two years ago I bought adjoining property and same time had new neighbors move in close by.
Now...tell me THIS isn't weird?!?
Wife and I are hanging clothes on clothesline (yes...we still do that) when we notice a truck going down the road...stops...guy gets out leaving motor running, door open! He walks the 300 ft or so up to us, saying "where's your still?". No introduction, handshake, etc. "Uh...say what? Who are you?" I ask. He says his daughter and son in law bought place next to us. He goes on to say he used to be a farmer (he appeared to be in 70s) and wish I could show him around place they bought. So I said sure, he says hop in my truck. We ride over down to barn. "What is this, what is that?" he asks pointing to a disk harrow, cultivator, spring tooth harrow, etc. I'm thinking... this guy was a farmer?!?!?
Anyway, I go back home, I'm working on my new fence. This kid comes flying up on an ATV on my land! and says "can I hunt?".
I've never laid eyes on this kid before. No introduction. Simply "can I hunt?". I said..."who are you?". Turns out I know who his parents are, don't know them well, they live a mile or so away. I said, well, I don't hunt and I'd have to talk it over with my boss.
Bottom line is, when I was a kid (50s-early 60s) we were taught manners, about trespassing, basically what to & not do, etc.
Modern people (most) are rude and disrespectful. They like noise (loud music, cars-trucks-atvs-motorcycles)...they don't like quiet serenity. To us (wife & I)...it's just weird. I don't believe our grandparents generation thought the same of us. We were different yes.
So back to Chuck and original post, the guy was fine in my opinion. He didn't or couldn't have known who's who. Then he did introduce himself. We should be so lucky here!
 
   / Mine and Not Yours. #119  
I think TV and air conditioning have contributed greatly to the isolation of people and lack of interaction. I remember when we did not have a TV or air conditioning. We'd spend the time outdoors or sitting on the porch. In town, we'd sit on the front porch and talk to the neighbors who were sitting on their front porch.
 
   / Mine and Not Yours. #120  
I did meet my neighbor in Oregon soon after I moved into my place, mostly 5-20 acre site so lots of separation.

He introduced himself to me, looked me right in the eye and said, I知 not real neighborly, I keep to myself. I bet my life he was growing weed. Not another word, for 7 years. Fine with me, no BS There.
 
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