Mount Tires by Myself?

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Suburban Plowboy

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The front tires on my Kubota have seen better days. I am thinking I should replace them. I don't understand why they are so cracked and nasty while the rears look perfect, but I guess I should be glad the expensive ones are in the best shape.

I was thinking I should buy new tires, take the wheels and tires off the tractor, and have a shop mount them. Then I started wondering if I could mount them myself. It's not like they have to be balanced or anything.

Is mounting tires with totally inappropriate tools an unrealistic goal? I have plenty of tools but nothing designed for mounting tires.
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #2  
I’ve done it and mostly it’s all about breaking and seating the bead…

Sometimes one has to get creative when it comes to seating tubeless tires with high volume of air with valve core removed and a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tread to force the bead to the rim…
 
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While I'm at it, I have another question.

My farm is pasture and woods, but under it, it's really sand. We don't get real mud here. The grass is bahia, which is just barely grass.

The Kubota had turf tires on the rear when I bought it, and the front tires are on the knobby side, but they are not a lot different from truck tires.

Is there any reason why I should have turf rear tires and these truck-like tires on the front? The tractor has 4-wheel drive, and I would think aggressive front tire treads might give me better traction.
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #4  
While I'm at it, I have another question.

My farm is pasture and woods, but under it, it's really sand. We don't get real mud here. The grass is bahia, which is just barely grass.

The Kubota had turf tires on the rear when I bought it, and the front tires are on the knobby side, but they are not a lot different from truck tires.

Is there any reason why I should have turf rear tires and these truck-like tires on the front? The tractor has 4-wheel drive, and I would think aggressive front tire treads might give me better traction.
I think as long as your new tires get close to the same diameter tires currently on the front, the tread pattern doesn't need to match the rears at all.
As for dismounting and mounting yourself, if you can break the bead with something heavy(I've used the corner of the bucket on the FEL), just some tire irons are needed to do the rest, and a ratchet strap and an air compressor. Watch some youtube.
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #5  
The front tires on my Kubota have seen better days. I am thinking I should replace them. I don't understand why they are so cracked and nasty while the rears look perfect, but I guess I should be glad the expensive ones are in the best shape.

I was thinking I should buy new tires, take the wheels and tires off the tractor, and have a shop mount them. Then I started wondering if I could mount them myself. It's not like they have to be balanced or anything.

Is mounting tires with totally inappropriate tools an unrealistic goal? I have plenty of tools but nothing designed for mounting tires.

I attempted the same with worn out rear tires on my zero turn at the beginning of the summer. One had a small hole in the worn out tread and wouldn’t hold air; the other was close to doing the same.

Looking at the youtube videos, thought it would be a piece of cake to do it myself, so I ordered the new tires online and gave it a go when they came in.

It took me close to a few hours to get one tire off the rim. Ended up cutting it off with a saw. Tried all the tricks to get the new tire on the rim. No dice.

Ended up taking it to a small equipment repair guy a few miles away. Had him put the new tire on, and do the complete change on the second tire. He had them both completely done in about 15 minutes.

So…..my suggestion would be to just by the new tires and then have a local auto or repair shop swap them out. Much less headache.
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #6  
I’ve done it and mostly it’s all about breaking and seating the bead…

Sometimes one has to get creative when it comes to seating tubeless tires with high volume of air with valve core removed and a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tread to force the bead to the rim…
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When I replaced my Kubota L3710 front tires 3 years ago it cost $15/tire to get them mounted.

Two years ago I had the same experience as seville009 when I replaced the front tires on my zero turn. After messing with the first tire for 30 minutes I resorted to the sawzall. What a pita..... The second tire went to the local tire shop, $20, (includes a $5 tip) and less than 10 minutes the job was done.
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #9  
I’ve lowered my truck on the tires to break the bead…
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #10  
You can also use clamps.Some lone screw drivers or
metal rods maybe flatten one end. Watch a youtube
video on how to change a tire

willy
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #11  
Don't forget to spray soap or better yet tire black when mounting and clamp a vise grip on the rim edge to get a starting point. HF sells a little manual tire changer and some extra spoons.
Honestly a tractor tire is no joke - they are very stiff and hard to work.
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #12  
Actually in my situation, breaking the bead was the simple part. The hard part was separating the rim from the tire (or tire off the rim, depending on how you look at it).
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #13  
i just came in from trying to mount versa turfs. I gave up. I have decent tire spoons and lube. It took me about 15-25 min each to get the turf tires off.

I got the first bead onto the tire no problem, I'm just not able to get the final bead on myself. I think I could do it with an extra set of hands, but I have a bad feeling it will still take a couple hours to do 4 tires and i'll be sore for 3 days. It doesn't help that I'm trying to avoid scratching the heck out of newly painted rims.
 
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Be careful with the straps when seating the bead. I use a rope with a loop, it will pull away before it breaks and whips me with a buckle.
 
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I've been doing small tires for years. I use the HF machine. It gives me 2 advantages. First it locks down the rim around waist height where I can exert my max force. 2nd it has a center pole that you leverage your tools against. I agree there is a point where it becomes logical to pay a tire store to do the job.
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #16  
If you do a lot of tires, it's worth investing in some tire tools. For 2, take it to a shop. But, buy the tires at the same shop. My buddy has a tire shop, and people always calling him wanting to mount larger tractor tires they bought online cheaper. Price for mounting goes to $50 ea.

Being I collect antique/classic tractors, I have done quite a few. Most have been 24" to 36" rim size. I bought a slide hammer type bead breaker, and even the worst one's were broken off the rim in just a few minutes. Knowing how to use one is the secret. You need to go in pretty well flat ways until it hits the rim. Move over a few inches and do the same all the way around. Takes maybe 4-5 licks each spot. Then start around again driving downward each spot 4-5 licks. Most generally after moving 6 times, the tire literally drops down.

I have tires tools of all sizes, from 1" wide, 18" long, to the 42" long tire irons. Just need to press down the opposite side into the drop center, then start with a narrow tire spoon. Use a second one to catch what you have and chase it around. Just take baby bites as you go. Once you get about 1/3 the way around on the large diameter rim size, I can use the longer tools to bring it on off.

For the Lawn & Garden type front tires I use a couple huge screw drivers I picked up at auctions. Same method, baby bites both ways. In the past, I've used the strap method to get them to expand out on the rim. Had one 2 years ago off a Cub Cadet that gave me fits. One of those you just have to walk away for 10 minutes and regroup. Came in to get a cold drink and started looking for bead seater tanks. Checked on FB Marketplace, and a guy just posted a Cheetah bead seater tank for $40, and was only 15 miles away. Made the call and he still had it. Picked it up, and within 5 minutes of getting home, had that tire popped out on the rim. I've done 8-10 here on different sizes up to 15" rims. But mostly 8" and 12" rear GT tires. Works like a champ and has paid for itself many times over already. Even bought a rear tine tiller pretty cheap, because the guy couldn't get the tire out on the rim, so he discounted the price. I paid him for it, then went to the truck to get the tank. I asked him if he could rock it up on one tire so I could air it up. He told me he'd worked 2-3 evenings trying to get it aired up with a large compressor, and it would take more than the 5 gallon portable tank I came back with. I had the valve and dump tube turned away so he couldn't see it. He looked rather puzzled when I turned it around. Asked him to rock it up then I put the tube against the tire and dumped the air. WHOOSH, and the tire was seated. He stood there dumbfounded, and all he could say was S...O...B... I've been fighting that tire for 6 hours, and you got it seated in 1 second. It's all about having the proper tools when needed.
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #17  
One of my college jobs was repairing truck tires, it ain't fun. If you live near a shop that can do it for you I'd take it in. We have an industrial tire place down the street, I buy the tires from them and the mounting isn't that expensive if you buy the tire there.

If you do it yourself it's easy to scratch the rims if you do it with hand tools, and then you'll be fighting slow leaks forever. So make sure you clean up the bead on the rims before you put the new tires on. You've got a couple options to seat the bead, we always sprayed a little ether in the tire and let it vaporize a minute, then hit it with a flame and it explodes, forcing the tire onto the bead. Or you can do the ratchet strap around the middle of the tire.
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #18  
I have done quite a few myself, i have worked at gas stations in my teens and did a bunch with the machines and bigger truck tires with mallets to break the bead. in the end IMO it depends on what your time is worth, I do not enjoy working on tires and at my age i'm not able to do much for a couple of days after, so to the tire shop they go. IMO it is important to know HOW to do it Not necessarily TO do it.

so if you have never experienced mounting a large tire, try it, i think you will arrive at the answer to the question after the first attempt.
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #19  
I did a whole lot of 4 wheeling with my first tractor. Had to have the front tires replaced. Local tire shop ( Les Schwab Tires ) made a house call and mounted the new tires.
 
/ Mount Tires by Myself? #20  
Buying tires mounted on new wheels as "whole goods" from the Kubota dealer may be less expensive than buying the tires alone, assuming the tires and wheels are the same as used on current equipment. To get the whole goods price you need to buy through the equipment sales department, not the parts department.
 

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