Moving firewood palette with BX, bolt on forks

[madmax12]

I still say a larger pair of hydraulic cylinders is in order for the BX25 FEL.
I would have done it weeks ago but funds are not there. I have measured
and drawn the OE FEL Cylinder in CAD which will make the process much
easier I do believe. A 2.5" cylinder w/ a stock 1" shaft, if I remember right,
almost doubles the performance w/o even touching the pressure relief valve!

Yea yea yea, the sky is falling and I am going to bend my FEL. If I do I get
to fix it or buy a new one. End of story. I am of the belief a responsible
driver not doing silly stuff would benefit much.

I am not 100% sold on the 2.5" , 2.25" may be wiser.

With all of your talent and creativity (I've seen your posts, and I mean my compliments sincerely), I'm surprised u didn't opt for a much larger used tractor. U seem to be able to fix and create anything... And u seem to have very big projects in mind for your machine to do.

Hope your tractor mods are all a blessing. They are fantastic. I hope the BX can handle them for u. It is a great model tractor.

 

[94BULLITT]

Thanks guys. Seems like its going to be more work than its worth to stack 8 cord on pallets. If I can only stack a couple tier high Im going to need a TON of pallets lol. The whole reason I considered this was so I could stack vertical to save space, with ease of moving a secondary benefit, because of that, using the loader was essential.

I still might build a set of forks, probably the chain on style, just for general use, moving logs, and taking the garbage to the highway on a pallet for garbage day.

You can move a lot on the 3ph, you just need a ballast. I stack my firewood on 42"x48" skids. I would stay on level ground while moving that much.

I still say a larger pair of hydraulic cylinders is in order for the BX25 FEL.
I would have done it weeks ago but funds are not there. I have measured
and drawn the OE FEL Cylinder in CAD which will make the process much
easier I do believe. A 2.5" cylinder w/ a stock 1" shaft, if I remember right,
almost doubles the performance w/o even touching the pressure relief valve!


Yea yea yea, the sky is falling and I am going to bend my FEL. If I do I get
to fix it or buy a new one. End of story. I am of the belief a responsible
driver not doing silly stuff would benefit much.

I am not 100% sold on the 2.5" , 2.25" may be wiser.

You may also break your front axle. Will the tires hold up to more wieght?

 

[Baby Grand]

You can move a lot on the 3ph, you just need a ballast. I stack my firewood on 42"x48" skids. I would stay on level ground while moving that much.




You may also break your front axle. Will the tires hold up to more wieght?

That was my thought, too. Front axles on our smaller tractors don't much like being overloaded. There's a limit to how much ballast you can load aft of the rear axle to relieve that load on the front axle and it is the amount that doesn't cause your front to get too light when you drop off the pallet and try to drive back up the hill for another one.

 

[kiotiken]

From the Apache site, this looks like it may be similar to Ken's

Fast Firewood B120 Firewood Bag - YouTube

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Yep, that's pretty much it exactly, except I put a little more into building the frame and painted it Kioti orange of course

Oh... That's very different from the frame I saw on the Canadian site u linked to. So these bags don't have the loops like the ones u bought...

Still a cool system. It's cool to have good options. Just makes it hard to pick one

They sell both types. What I bought is a lot cheaper (about $2.50/bag vs about $10) and they are stackable. I also don't like the idea of throwing firewood at my tractor all day, just a matter of time before one hits the hood or goes through the windshield. It's also then easier to pick up a skid than re-looping the bag onto the forks.

 

[rockinmywaypa]

Yep, that's pretty much it exactly, except I put a little more into building the frame and painted it Kioti orange of course



They sell both types. What I bought is a lot cheaper (about $2.50/bag vs about $10) and they are stackable. I also don't like the idea of throwing firewood at my tractor all day, just a matter of time before one hits the hood or goes through the windshield. It's also then easier to pick up a skid than re-looping the bag onto the forks.

That last line says it all when you're by yourself.

 

[Scooby074]

The bulk bag system is exactly what Im envisioning.. to bad the BX is gutless when it comes to lift capacity.. It is what it is.

 

[Scooby074]

There are other options, that maybe the BX could pull:


At $650, This one can move 2000lbs:
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Very interesting.

If youve ever seen a Dingo you'll know they are basically a small, walk behind "loader". There is a kit available for them called the "Forkster" to make them into a forklift capable of lifting like 2000 lbs.



A while back I was at the scrap yard and there was a full mast and forks off a scrapped (?) forklift... I should have bought it, I could have created something like the dingo system

 

[madmax12]

Very interesting.

If youve ever seen a Dingo you'll know they are basically a small, walk behind "loader". There is a kit available for them called the "Forkster" to make them into a forklift capable of lifting like 2000 lbs.

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A while back I was at the scrap yard and there was a full mast and forks off a scrapped (?) forklift... I should have bought it, I could have created something like the dingo system

This is one of the projects I undid (am I the only one that undoes projects?) today... Pavers were stacked on the pallet, to be used at a later date, for something yet unknown.

 

[Scooby074]

That looks like a fair bit of weight there! Is the Mahindra stronger in the 3pt than the BX?

Im trying to convert pavers to firewood and figure how tall a stack of firewood of the same weight would be:laughing:

 

[madmax12]

That looks like a fair bit of weight there! Is the Mahindra stronger in the 3pt than the BX?

Im trying to convert pavers to firewood and figure how tall a stack of firewood of the same weight would be:laughing:

The BX is a great machine. What I have is more like the B2920, I think. Mine is 28hp. Rear lift is 2200lbs. FEL lift is 1400lbs.

I'm not sure how much each paver weighs, but aside from a few broken ones, there are 208 pavers on the pallet. It would be cool to know what that weighs.

This is a link to the tractor I have:
Mahindra Max 28XL 4WD HST - Mahindra Tractors - Heavy Duty, Value Packed Tractors. Built Tough to Last with a 5 year Warranty

Will that pallet mover idea work for you at all? It costs the same as my forks...so, pretty reasonable, to me.

 

[Scooby074]

According to Shaw Brick http://www.shawbrick.ca/coll/?page.id=6&product-subtype.id=1&collection.id=14#{%22collection-tab%22:%22collectionProductSpecsSection%22}

Their typical 8x4 brick paver weighs 6lbs/ea.. 208 pavers is 1248lbs + pallet (40?) + pallet mover (???) So a fair bit of weight there. I noticed on the Mahindra site they compared it to the L3200, not the class of machine I expected them to. The Max looks to be a pretty strong tractor in a small package.

 

[madmax12]

According to Shaw Brick http://www.shawbrick.ca/coll/?page.id=6&product-subtype.id=1&collection.id=14#{%22collection-tab%22:%22collectionProductSpecsSection%22}

Their typical 8x4 brick paver weighs 6lbs/ea.. 208 pavers is 1248lbs + pallet (40?) + pallet mover (???) So a fair bit of weight there. I noticed on the Mahindra site they compared it to the L3200, not the class of machine I expected them to. The Max looks to be a pretty strong tractor in a small package.

Cool! Thanks for the link to the paver weight.

I'm a beginner, in the tractor arena. But I think the one I picked will work out good. For some jobs (for my needs) it's a hair too big, and for other jobs, I might wish it a hair bigger. But, bigger just would be too big (for my situation). And smaller would have prevented me from doing some of the potential projects we are pondering.

Picking the right tractor is a challenge. That's why many here have more than one. And then there's John Thomas. He gets a new one every two weeks, I think.

 

[94BULLITT]

A bx will lift over 1000lbs on the 3ph.

 

[kiotiken]

This is one of the projects I undid (am I the only one that undoes projects?) today... Pavers were stacked on the pallet, to be used at a later date, for something yet unknown.

I'm impressed. I unloaded a friends pickup for him a couple weeks ago and I struggled to lift much more than that with my DK45 which has a FEL lift cap of 2700lbs. At first I was a little confused why I couldn't back away from the truck, then I realize the rear tires where spinning and almost in the air! 1200lbs in the tires and a 450lbs box blade on the 3pt isn't even close to enough ballast. Put it in 4X4 and got the load as low as possible after clearing the truck bed.

The BX's are great for what they where designed to do, but pallets loaded like that are not on the list. With bolt on forks, I think I'd forget it, with a small pair of pallet forks, you may come up with something that works, but I'm going to guess you'll be moving between 1/4 and 1/3 cord per pallet, and you probably won't be able to stack them.

 

[madmax12]

I'm impressed. I unloaded a friends pickup for him a couple weeks ago and I struggled to lift much more than that with my DK45 which has a FEL lift cap of 2700lbs. At first I was a little confused why I couldn't back away from the truck, then I realize the rear tires where spinning and almost in the air! 1200lbs in the tires and a 450lbs box blade on the 3pt isn't even close to enough ballast. Put it in 4X4 and got the load as low as possible after clearing the truck bed.

I hope u r still impressed when I clarify that the load of pavers was on the rear...

I'll have to test out that pallet on the FEL and let u know the results. My forks weigh (I think) 350lbs. So...I'm thinkin' the pallet ain't comin off the ground with the FEL, based on the weight assumptions given a few posts ago. But... we will see...

 

[Scooby074]

A bx will lift over 1000lbs on the 3ph.

Yes it will. My 825 lb Box Blade http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/projects/249062-adding-weight-underweight-box-blade.html

 

[94BULLITT]

Yes it will. My 825 lb Box Blade http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/projects/249062-adding-weight-underweight-box-blade.html

That's heavier than my grand l's box blade, I need a better one for it.

 

[madmax12]

It's not a pallet, exactly. But it is wood. I did this a couple days ago.

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[madmax12]

This isn't wood, but I moved this in May.

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[chopped]

I just wanted to comment ,from persoanal experience,I have made 'boxes' with pallets for wood. First on the pallet I add 2x4 coener posts to it, and then some whatever wood around the top perimeter, then I use old metal fencing to make the outsides of it.I keep one side lower than the other four so i can bend in and reach the wood.
This has worked so well, I now want them from pressure treated wood.
And a point, with the clamp on forks or any time you dont have a clear view of the forks, I now make SKIDS .(like a pallet without the lower bottom boards.)In fact my new bases are going to e 6x6 or 2x4 pressure treated with 5/4 decking.So they will last.
Anyways a skid is far easier to slide under when we cant see the forks.Once you get the feel of the forks by lowing to the ground and then raise it a couple inches. then right under.Not being able to see the fork ends is a real pain..