my first and last Kioti

   / my first and last Kioti #41  
In NH if the trailer is over 3000# it needs a inspection sticker
 
   / my first and last Kioti #43  
The problem is not in the material but the manufacturing. Many of the items you buy are made in China. While China has laws to ensure quality and the integrity of products, they are never enforced. Recently an inventor that I do design for marketed a product that would be exposed to sunshine. I specified UV resistant material and urged him to use a US manufacturer. He opted for China because of cost of 20% of US quotes. Now his product is failing and he is out of business. The parts looked good but after several months turned yellow and became as brittle as a potato chip.
I wouldn稚 put that one on China. Their manufacturing plant will produce product to any specification on the blueprint, to any quality level in the contract.

Inventors rarely make good businessmen, and, in my experience, have little interest in, or knowledge of the product development process.

Put it plainly, there is more to bringing a product to market than an idea and a manufacturing plant.

Your client was destined to fail because he didn稚 do his homework.
 
   / my first and last Kioti #44  
First off I love my CK30 it is exactly the correct tractor for me and my uses. I have a loader and a set of forks not the clamp ons a real set. My issue with Kioti is poor, worse then poor dealers. Fast to sell but when repairs are needed they figure that weeks and possibly months instead of days is acceptable. My fuel tank began to leak and without a suitable garage and an array of tools removing the fuel tank myself is not practicable. I called the dealer and told they would be right on it. And they were as far as picking up the tractor and telling me what I already knew after 3 days. $1300 a ridiculous extreme amount that they knew I would be forced to accept. I was told they needed to order the tank and it would be in about 2 to 3 days. They would call and keep me informed. No call after 2 weeks, I called them "we did not know the warehouse was closed for a week" "we will call you in a day or so" Still No call.
When I get my tractor back I will use it until something else breaks or wears out then purchase another brand, won't be John Deere. I bought the Kioti because the John Deere dealer is also poor and very slow. I ask this question< Why are tractor dealers so slow and overly expensive not to mention never informing customers that repairs will take months. Any decent dealers around North Central Maryland or South central Pennsylvania?
Sorry for venting but I am getting more angry everyday.
$1300 sounds high for a gas tank, but my local Ford dealer quoted $1300-1800 for the steel tank for my v10 F450.

That痴 just for the tank, with no labor.
 
   / my first and last Kioti #45  
I understand the trailer issues in Canada, but it is not even close to the same in most of the US.
My 20ft. 14K low deck equipment trailer costs me $20 per year for registration. Liability/property damage insurance coverage automatically extends from the towing vehicle. I bought a 5 year trailer registration for $100, and that is renewable in minimum 1 year increments. At each renewal, up to ten more years is available ($200 for 10 years). Even though my trailer is new, I do not have any trailer loss insurance coverage.
It should be noted that I do not use my trailer for hire.
No trailer safety inspection is required.
Just be aware that in some states that if you have a failure that causes the trailer to be detached from the tow vehicle your vehicle insurance no longer covers the trailer or any damage that results.
 
   / my first and last Kioti #46  
Just be aware that in some states that if you have a failure that causes the trailer to be detached from the tow vehicle your vehicle insurance no longer covers the trailer or any damage that results.

Such a "failure" would have to mean that the trailer coupler, or the hitch itself, together with the safety chains would have to fail.
Many scenarios are POSSIBLE.
Safest solution would be to never tow a trailer!
 
   / my first and last Kioti #47  
I don't know anything about Kioti, but it sounds like..................So, what's your point???????
 
   / my first and last Kioti #48  
I don't know anything about Kioti, but it sounds like..................So, what's your point???????

If you're quoting someone could you include that part? No idea what the context is, or why your question. The thread is really going sideways (and I regret that I've helped).
 
   / my first and last Kioti #49  
Glad you got your tractor back. Well what did it turn out to be. And what do you think caused it
 
   / my first and last Kioti
  • Thread Starter
#50  
$1300 sounds high for a gas tank, but my local Ford dealer quoted $1300-1800 for the steel tank for my v10 F450.

That痴 just for the tank, with no labor.
The final cost was $1187.75 they washed and lubed everything and that included picking it up and bringing it back. I have nor received an itemized bill so the actual price for the tank is still an unknown. It appears that the entire dash needed to be removed to access the tank. So I guess labor was a sizable chunk of the bill. They told me the tank was cracked.
 
   / my first and last Kioti #51  
For me, the only ones that give a rat's a*zz is Kubota. Not all are good in the shop on the low end stuff but many or all of their serious mechanics seem to be Kubota trained. And I had an issue in which Kubota stepped up to the plate and took care of. No problems and the dealer was excellent and then some. I've sent them several buyers since.

Now, I like my Deere 5520 but I had to haul to a dealer 40 miles away to get better service than the one 5 miles away that couldn't be bothered. So I paid the other shop $600 for diagnostics. Were I to buy another 90HP tractor, it might be a Deere "M" series but more likely a Kubota. Kubota is really building a reputation, in my view.


Edit: I add that the nice dealer I mentioned in the first paragraph is the result of me parting with the old dealer that couldn't be bothered to return my calls when I asked about a price. Since then, I've bought three implements, a 70HP Kubota and lots of parts and accessories from the new dealer. Everyone and everything goes where it's treated best.
 
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   / my first and last Kioti #52  
Sorry about your bad service experience. I’ve had good luck with my dealer but had many situations similar to yours with RVs over the years. A dealer that is great for the sales process and promises the world after the fact generally sucks as far as service after the sale I had warranty issues where these “awesome” dealers wanted me to drop off an RV and said we will call you when it’s done is six months “or so”. The reality is whether it’s RVs or Tractors or whatever the service and warranty departments seem to have so much work and such a lock on their market they are generally in no hurry. Not to mention the rates they are being paid for warranty work are much less than someone off the street so they tend to push warranty work to the bottom of the pile. I’ve made the switch to buying tractors and RVs from the place I can get the best price regardless of location and ignoring the service promises and then finding a place that comes through on service after the fact even if that means driving a bit. When someone tells me something will be done Friday it better **** well be done Friday or I expect a detailed explanation along with the apology and good reason for the delay.
 
   / my first and last Kioti #53  
just read this all thru and it's kinda like, huh?
Kioti tractors are not troublesome cheap piles of crap, nor are they without problems; just like anything mechanical.The main problem here is lack of connection between the customer and the repairman.
Exhibit A: "No call after 2 weeks" When I read this, it told me that no follow up call after the 2 or 3 days initial time estimate was given. If there had been such a call, it would have alerted the OP that a delay was involved. it also sent a message to the shop that this was not a hot issue and they triaged it to low priority status.
So with 2 weeks to get himself worked up about it, OP calls to receive news that the problem that the shop has been paying little attention to now needs attention. Shop raises priority. OP feels ignored and is upset about it.
Clearly not long after, as the tractor was returned 2 days after this thread began, OP is reunited at $200 less than the estimate.

May I please be made to understand where the harm occurred? The OP does not seem to be using this tractor to make a living, so it doesn't seem that big a deal that it was down 2 or 3 weeks waiting for a part. Maybe it would have been even less had he been more diligent in the progress of the repair.
 
   / my first and last Kioti
  • Thread Starter
#54  
the tank was cracked, I had read that Kioti made a poor design on the tanks and that they were failing. Mine lasted 6 years so of course no warranty coverage. The new tanks have have been corrected so I have read.
 
   / my first and last Kioti #55  
If you're quoting someone could you include that part? No idea what the context is, or why your question. The thread is really going sideways (and I regret that I've helped).

The post is in reply to the one by EddieWalker on page one (1) of this thread. I assumed that anyone with enough interest to post a reply would have read all of the posts in the thread!:confused:
 
   / my first and last Kioti #56  
The post is in reply to the one by EddieWalker on page one (1) of this thread. I assumed that anyone with enough interest to post a reply would have read all of the posts in the thread!:confused:
There are 6 pages.
We can't remember every line of every post.
 

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