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Well, the shed project turned into a larger shed project, which turned into a pole barn project, which turned into a garage project......

Well you get the picture.......hoping to get the final plans drawn up for the permit soon for a 24x32 garage with loft storage, concrete foundation and floor....the portable shelter I put up last year held up to the tough winter and will suffice for now

Been watching Pixguy's garage build and hoping to get up to see it one weekend.....:drool:
 

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   / New 2305! I'm an idiot... #22  
Well, the shed project turned into a larger shed project, which turned into a pole barn project, which turned into a garage project......

Well you get the picture.......hoping to get the final plans drawn up for the permit soon for a 24x32 garage with loft storage, concrete foundation and floor....the portable shelter I put up last year held up to the tough winter and will suffice for now

Been watching Pixguy's garage build and hoping to get up to see it one weekend.....:drool:

Sounds awesome! Looking forward to seeing the thread when it gets started.:thumbsup:
 
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Well, the shed project turned into a larger shed project, which turned into a pole barn project, which turned into a garage project......

Well you get the picture.......hoping to get the final plans drawn up for the permit soon for a 24x32 garage with loft storage, concrete foundation and floor....the portable shelter I put up last year held up to the tough winter and will suffice for now

Been watching Pixguy's garage build and hoping to get up to see it one weekend.....:drool:

Sounds like me, that's how a BB hoop turned into a $7K concrete job. That has been put off due to the purchase. I told the wife that I would be able to do a lot of the work myself at a later date.
 
   / New 2305! I'm an idiot... #24  
Sounds like me, that's how a BB hoop turned into a $7K concrete job. That has been put off due to the purchase. I told the wife that I would be able to do a lot of the work myself at a later date.

Funny how these projects seem to grow on you. I brought the walkbehind rototiler home last spring for a small garden for my wife. Now this year she wants a 2 acre garden on the farm.:ashamed: It's starting to sound like a PTO rototiller might be in my future.:laughing::laughing:
 
   / New 2305! I'm an idiot... #25  
Funny how these projects seem to grow on you. I brought the walkbehind rototiler home last spring for a small garden for my wife. Now this year she wants a 2 acre garden on the farm.:ashamed: It's starting to sound like a PTO rototiller might be in my future.:laughing::laughing:

I guess she did mention last year that she liked this one.:shocked:
 

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   / New 2305! I'm an idiot... #26  
everytime you make a payment and feel like an ID10T

fire up your new baby - with the mower deck on

let her warm up a bit an

pull the yellow pto switch

run her up to 2800 rpms

and just listen

the deck makes a sound like no other - all your guilt will fade in a minute or two



as for the rock.....buy from a jewler that will let you trade up for original price

that way no money will be lost and the rock will grow

so far my 2 deers have turned a .75ct to a 2.0+ct and size trumps cut, clairity, and color

and your wife may make comments like she hates it but she will NEVER let you part with it(the tractor)

congrats, enjoy
 
   / New 2305! I'm an idiot... #27  
When I bought my Massey last fall, I paid cash instead of financing because it was 2000 dollars cheaper:thumbsup:. Wife complained all fall about we couldn't go on vacation because I spent all the money on that stupid tractor.:( After all the snow we had this winter, she hasn't said a thing because without the tractor we would still be buried in snow.:laughing: So remember it will all work out in the end.;):laughing:

When I told my wife that a tractor would cost around $20,000, she about fell out of her chair. She said she would help me shovel the driveway at the new house once we got there. Well, the first week we were here, we got 5 inches. We were outside shoveling for an hour, and with about 15 feet of driveway left so I could get her to work, our neighbor came over with his Kubota with FEL and back blade and offered to take care of it for us. In 15 seconds, that last 15 feet was done.

My wife looked at me and said "You can buy any tractor you want".

A couple weeks later we found out that we had a slight water problem in the basement that we needed to fix before we could finish the basement. The plan is to run French drains along the three exterior walls of the house that are covered with earth, to waterproof the exterior of those walls, and then waterproof the interior of the walls. The estimate for that wasn't cheap, so we are going to do it ourselves after we get a tractor.

Also looking at ripping out the asphalt driveway, enlarging the parking area, putting in a circular driveway, and installing a rear patio all with pavers. Going to do that ourselves too.

Then, we need to run trenches for the downspouts and have them drain much further away from the house and we need to grade the backyard so that we don't have a marsh in the backyard right by our patio and under our deck. Going to do that ourselves.

Then, we are going to build a stone wall around the elevated driveway and put in a bunch of small plants along it.

The amount of stuff we have to do is huge, and I have gotten the green light on a 3720 now with a FEL and 485 backhoe, but that will not happen until after next tax season when we have a ton of cash to put toward it.

The immediate green light is for a Stihl 250-CBE chainsaw, Stihl 460 chainsaw, Stihl Kombi 30 motor and a couple attachments for the Kombi system.

Ultimately, you need to show your wife what all these things can save you money wise. Make good on that cement basketball court and show her the savings.

I just fixed my 1998 Ford Taurus with 224,000 miles on it. The A/C clutch froze and broke the serpentine belt. Just changed the original alternator in December, but the power steering pump, A/C clutch, and water pump were all original, so I replaced all of them. I have a subscription to AllDataDIY and was able to show my wife how much I saved in labor costs by changing everything myself. She never says a thing about any tools I want to buy, because she knows I will use the heck out of them.

Case in point. I just bought a JD Z445 zero turn mower to mow the grass. Originally, I was going to go with a JD 2520 compact tractor, but with the advice from the guys on here and after deciding that I would rather have a wood burning furnace by winter instead of a tractor right now, we went with the mower. My wife knows I will probably keep that mower running for 10+ years, and that we will easily make our money back on it by not having to pay somebody to mow our grass.

My philosophy is that with the money I save doing things myself, I buy more tools so I can save even more money down the road. Obviously, I don't spend all of the savings on new tools, but I buy the tools whenever I need them.

Ultimately, I am straight forward with my wife about cost. When she asked how much the mower was, I told her straight up. Same goes for anything else I buy, whether it is a gun, bike, hunting equipment, cycling equipment, fishing equipment, tools, etc. I always tell my wife exactly what big ticket items cost. We rarely argue about money. Then again, maybe it is because she knows I hate debt and just will not go out there and put us in debt for things we don't absolutely need.

Oh yeah, she also got the top of the line LG washer and dryer when we moved in here because the house is a foreclosure and there was no washer or dryer. Figure she is going to use them for years and years, and since she likes doing laundry about as much as I like mowing grass, having something nice to do it with was a good idea.

Kind of mixed up this reply with replying to this post and the OP, but it is late and I am tired. I apologize.
 
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#28  
everytime you make a payment and feel like an ID10T

fire up your new baby - with the mower deck on

let her warm up a bit an

pull the yellow pto switch

run her up to 2800 rpms

and just listen

the deck makes a sound like no other - all your guilt will fade in a minute or two



as for the rock.....buy from a jewler that will let you trade up for original price

that way no money will be lost and the rock will grow

so far my 2 deers have turned a .75ct to a 2.0+ct and size trumps cut, clairity, and color

and your wife may make comments like she hates it but she will NEVER let you part with it(the tractor)

congrats, enjoy

I'm sure any guilt will subside when I start it up. I love the sound of a diesel, I have a diesel Ford Excursion. I've never had the chance to hear the 2305 with the deck running however, I'm excited for that. I don't plan on trading up regarding the rock, she's been patient so I better do it right. Don't know about 2 ct though, that's a monster. I'm probably going 1 ct or so. She has slim fingers, I'll just say I though a bigger rock would make her look look an idiot. :)
 
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#29  
You are right about the tractors, tools etc. paying for themselves buy doing it yourself. I've always found that to be true. I have a host of Stihl gear, my wife was skeptical, but now she sees the value, some of the best money I've spent. I think I'm the only one in the neighborhood that has nice clean edging and all debris blown clear. Like to keep it tidy. I've only been here 3 years, don't know most in the neighborhood well. I know they thought I was the lawn boy for the first couple of years. My neighbor is a plastic surgeon that hires everything out and there I am dirty, sweaty with a backpack blower. I don't exactly fit in sometimes but I'd rather do for myself. I've never hired work done that when completed thought I could have done better (with the exception of a tree crew, those guys knew their work).

I believe in having the right tools and usually go overboard, but if I can buy the tools for what it costs to hire a job done, then I just got some free tools right? I have plenty of jobs for the tractor, probably more than I know. I could do them all and in five years sell it for good money and be ahead. I know, I won't want to sell it... not unless I want to upgrade to the new series! BTW, we also got the top of the line washer/dryer when we moved in although I don't consider that her thing only.

When I told my wife that a tractor would cost around $20,000, she about fell out of her chair. She said she would help me shovel the driveway at the new house once we got there. Well, the first week we were here, we got 5 inches. We were outside shoveling for an hour, and with about 15 feet of driveway left so I could get her to work, our neighbor came over with his Kubota with FEL and back blade and offered to take care of it for us. In 15 seconds, that last 15 feet was done.

My wife looked at me and said "You can buy any tractor you want".

A couple weeks later we found out that we had a slight water problem in the basement that we needed to fix before we could finish the basement. The plan is to run French drains along the three exterior walls of the house that are covered with earth, to waterproof the exterior of those walls, and then waterproof the interior of the walls. The estimate for that wasn't cheap, so we are going to do it ourselves after we get a tractor.

Also looking at ripping out the asphalt driveway, enlarging the parking area, putting in a circular driveway, and installing a rear patio all with pavers. Going to do that ourselves too.

Then, we need to run trenches for the downspouts and have them drain much further away from the house and we need to grade the backyard so that we don't have a marsh in the backyard right by our patio and under our deck. Going to do that ourselves.

Then, we are going to build a stone wall around the elevated driveway and put in a bunch of small plants along it.

The amount of stuff we have to do is huge, and I have gotten the green light on a 3720 now with a FEL and 485 backhoe, but that will not happen until after next tax season when we have a ton of cash to put toward it.

The immediate green light is for a Stihl 250-CBE chainsaw, Stihl 460 chainsaw, Stihl Kombi 30 motor and a couple attachments for the Kombi system.

Ultimately, you need to show your wife what all these things can save you money wise. Make good on that cement basketball court and show her the savings.

I just fixed my 1998 Ford Taurus with 224,000 miles on it. The A/C clutch froze and broke the serpentine belt. Just changed the original alternator in December, but the power steering pump, A/C clutch, and water pump were all original, so I replaced all of them. I have a subscription to AllDataDIY and was able to show my wife how much I saved in labor costs by changing everything myself. She never says a thing about any tools I want to buy, because she knows I will use the heck out of them.

Case in point. I just bought a JD Z445 zero turn mower to mow the grass. Originally, I was going to go with a JD 2520 compact tractor, but with the advice from the guys on here and after deciding that I would rather have a wood burning furnace by winter instead of a tractor right now, we went with the mower. My wife knows I will probably keep that mower running for 10+ years, and that we will easily make our money back on it by not having to pay somebody to mow our grass.

My philosophy is that with the money I save doing things myself, I buy more tools so I can save even more money down the road. Obviously, I don't spend all of the savings on new tools, but I buy the tools whenever I need them.

Ultimately, I am straight forward with my wife about cost. When she asked how much the mower was, I told her straight up. Same goes for anything else I buy, whether it is a gun, bike, hunting equipment, cycling equipment, fishing equipment, tools, etc. I always tell my wife exactly what big ticket items cost. We rarely argue about money. Then again, maybe it is because she knows I hate debt and just will not go out there and put us in debt for things we don't absolutely need.

Oh yeah, she also got the top of the line LG washer and dryer when we moved in here because the house is a foreclosure and there was no washer or dryer. Figure she is going to use them for years and years, and since she likes doing laundry about as much as I like mowing grass, having something nice to do it with was a good idea.

Kind of mixed up this reply with replying to this post and the OP, but it is late and I am tired. I apologize.
 
   / New 2305! I'm an idiot... #30  
I still don't have my tractor hopefully hopefully this Saturday. With that being said I ran into that with my wife upset about the money. I told her that I would much rather be outside in the winter 1/2 to 1 hr. plowing instead of 3, 4, 5 hours... Then we had our property timbered this spring and have an area approximately 40' x 100' that is ripped up in our side yard from the landing. She complained and said what are you going to do? I told her I would give her a rake.... She said order the tractor.....:thumbsup:
 
   / New 2305! I'm an idiot... #31  
Boy this all sounds familiar. When we moved to our 6 acre place in 2001 we started out by selling our little LX188 and bought a used 335 with 54" deck. That did OK with the mowing (about 3 acres) and snowblowing but little else. I kept dropping hints about this 'new' scut that JD was bringing out (the 2210, this was in 2002) and how much more I could get done with it. Never got much of a response from the wife and wasn't sure how far to push.

Fortunately my wife had turned 40 the previous year and I had bought her a baby grand piano (with payment book of course). So when it was my turn to get old in 2003 she surprised me with the 2210, 62C, and 210 loader. Of course it came with a loan too but I didn't care about that! :)

So after I get the tractor I start looking for other stuff like a bushhog, rear blade, work lights, folding ROPS, bar tires, etc, etc. This was when she realized that the initial purchase was only the start! At first she really struggled with this (you already have a tractor what more do you need?) but after she saw some of the equipment at work on our property she quickly became a big proponent of the 2210 and all it's goodies.

It's now 8 years later and the 2210 is pretty much part of the family. We use it year-round for all kinds of outdoor work and I get zero complaints from the wifey.

My next goal is an upgrade. Son heads off to college in just over a year so I see the need for a 2720 or 3320 with 72" deck, snowblower, bigger loader, etc. I've already started to mention it, and guess what? My 50th birthday is only two years away! Guess I'd better get her something really nice for her 50th this year, so I can set things up correctly. :)
 
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#32  
Boy this all sounds familiar. When we moved to our 6 acre place in 2001 we started out by selling our little LX188 and bought a used 335 with 54" deck. That did OK with the mowing (about 3 acres) and snowblowing but little else. I kept dropping hints about this 'new' scut that JD was bringing out (the 2210, this was in 2002) and how much more I could get done with it. Never got much of a response from the wife and wasn't sure how far to push.

Fortunately my wife had turned 40 the previous year and I had bought her a baby grand piano (with payment book of course). So when it was my turn to get old in 2003 she surprised me with the 2210, 62C, and 210 loader. Of course it came with a loan too but I didn't care about that! :)

So after I get the tractor I start looking for other stuff like a bushhog, rear blade, work lights, folding ROPS, bar tires, etc, etc. This was when she realized that the initial purchase was only the start! At first she really struggled with this (you already have a tractor what more do you need?) but after she saw some of the equipment at work on our property she quickly became a big proponent of the 2210 and all it's goodies.

It's now 8 years later and the 2210 is pretty much part of the family. We use it year-round for all kinds of outdoor work and I get zero complaints from the wifey.

My next goal is an upgrade. Son heads off to college in just over a year so I see the need for a 2720 or 3320 with 72" deck, snowblower, bigger loader, etc. I've already started to mention it, and guess what? My 50th birthday is only two years away! Guess I'd better get her something really nice for her 50th this year, so I can set things up correctly. :)

My problem was that I should have bought the diamond first! When we finally went to look at the tractor and she started thinking about it, the first thing she asked was what else do you need to buy for it! She knows me well, once I get into something, it's hard to stop. For years I did mods to my diesel Excursion. I don't even know what I spent, but it was a bunch.

It's not going to be as easy to sneak in an implement as it was a set of gauges! I'm pretty sure we will all be happy with the tractor. My wife asked me last night if I was excited to get it. I said yes and asked her if she was going to drive it, told her it had power steering. :)
 
   / New 2305! I'm an idiot... #33  
My wife asked me last night if I was excited to get it. I said yes and asked her if she was going to drive it, told her it had power steering. :)

Ya gotta be careful there........

...you might end up being a two tractor family just so that you can get some seat time too.:D
 
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#34  
Ya gotta be careful there........

...you might end up being a two tractor family just so that you can get some seat time too.:D

Don't have to worry, tractors & that stuff don't do much for her. Plus, her back is destroyed from gymnastics when she was a kid. That's why I need to be more careful with mine. I did mention that everyone says the wife ends up using the tractor, she just rolled her eyes at me. :rolleyes:
 
   / New 2305! I'm an idiot... #35  
Congrats Hink... I hope you find too useful!

Since everyone else has a story, I will share too:

I almost dumped my girlfriend (now my wife) over a hot tub. We weren't even dating yet, I told her about this 9 person hot tub that I was going to get for $300 (used of course) and she asked "Why do we need that?". I told her to get out, we weren't even living together yet. Later I wised up, convinced her to come back and the deal ended up falling through anyway.

A couple of years later there was a hurricane coming, so I went and bought one of the last generators I could find. She was like, "we don't need that thing". 20 minutes after the hurricane hit, our power went out for 2 weeks. She was very happy with me for a long time and bragged about how I made life bearable for her.

When we moved to WV, I was doing the hinting about needing a tractor, and making no progress, so I decided I would show her why, so I put my 300 lb body on my Murry mower and proceeded down the hill, about 10 feet later I was free willing from the slipping belt and almost went over the cliff. Once I got back to the top she ran over and took the key out and told me to find a tractor!
 
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#36  
When we moved to WV, I was doing the hinting about needing a tractor, and making no progress, so I decided I would show her why, so I put my 300 lb body on my Murry mower and proceeded down the hill, about 10 feet later I was free willing from the slipping belt and almost went over the cliff. Once I got back to the top she ran over and took the key out and told me to find a tractor!

I had the same problem with my Cub, it's a little thing and every time I go down the hill I end up building some pretty good speed! I have to ride the thing like a bull to keep traction up or down hill! I've only got 175 lbs. or so of "body ballast" so traction is terrible. I know the wife would watch and knew I needed something better, I don't think she was envisioning a $20k tractor! I can't wait to sit back and let the machine do the work! I told her 4wd was a must.

Steve
 
   / New 2305! I'm an idiot... #37  
You are right about the tractors, tools etc. paying for themselves buy doing it yourself. I've always found that to be true. I have a host of Stihl gear, my wife was skeptical, but now she sees the value, some of the best money I've spent. I think I'm the only one in the neighborhood that has nice clean edging and all debris blown clear. Like to keep it tidy. I've only been here 3 years, don't know most in the neighborhood well. I know they thought I was the lawn boy for the first couple of years. My neighbor is a plastic surgeon that hires everything out and there I am dirty, sweaty with a backpack blower. I don't exactly fit in sometimes but I'd rather do for myself. I've never hired work done that when completed thought I could have done better (with the exception of a tree crew, those guys knew their work).

I believe in having the right tools and usually go overboard, but if I can buy the tools for what it costs to hire a job done, then I just got some free tools right? I have plenty of jobs for the tractor, probably more than I know. I could do them all and in five years sell it for good money and be ahead. I know, I won't want to sell it... not unless I want to upgrade to the new series! BTW, we also got the top of the line washer/dryer when we moved in although I don't consider that her thing only.

Yeah, I have never, ever, operated a washer or drier in my life and I turn 40 this year. Those things are definitely her things. I don't think I have even moved a load of laundry from the washer to the drier the 8 years that we have been together. I wouldn't even know where to start to do laundry.

Have fun with the new tractor. Me, I'm just drooling over 3720's and trying to figure out if I can afford a new one with a cab or if I should buy a used one with a cab or if I should buy a new one without a cab. Decisions, decisions. I'll probably go with the cab since I foresee me keeping this tractor for the rest of my life.
 
   / New 2305! I'm an idiot... #38  
Wow I feel lucky!

I'm 26, just bought a house about a year ago. For the last year my neighbor has been kind enough to mow my grass for me. With all the rain we've had in Ohio this year, it's been to muddy for his zero turn.

My fiancee then told my parents how she felt about the long - nearly knee high - grass. Who then asked why I never bought a tractor. My parents and I farm about 100 acres, I live in a community and have roughly an acre - plus we all pitch in to take care of green space around the lake and such. So my family's pair of 60+ HP tractors would be too big for the situation. My fiancee and I determined we should get a mower, of some type - her family, having horses helped her mindset, I believe. She said spend as much as I can and get the biggest one possible! After doing the research and seeing what was around, the JD 2305 seemed like the best deal. I'm picking up a 'used' JD 2305 with a 200CX and a 62in belly mower on Thursday. It was the dealer's demo unit then owned by their parts guy who retired and traded it in on a bigger unit - with 147 Hrs on the clock, it seems brand new to me! All I have to add is a weight box. I don't need a backhoe or the like - have a Cat 301.5, JD ZTS50 and a JD310C for digging work. (We do all our own dirt work / construction.)

I feel lucky my fiancee is so supportive of the venture. I feel sorry for anyone that has to fight for helpful toy! (Although, I did promise this winter we'd remodel the kitchen....)


I also would like to thank all you on this forum. Really helped me make my decision on which to buy and why.
 
   / New 2305! I'm an idiot... #39  
All I can say about that Hink fella is that his kind are the ones that makes it very hard for the rest of us that have convinced the wife that upgraded diamonds are only due after 25 years.:)
 
   / New 2305! I'm an idiot... #40  
All I can say about that Hink fella is that his kind are the ones that makes it very hard for the rest of us that have convinced the wife that upgraded diamonds are only due after 25 years.:)

if you dont want to get her diamonds

buy her a corvette, a z4 bmw convertable, or a porche cayman and offer to drive her where ever she needs to go - the worst thing she could say is " you drive like and old man"
 

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