New fuel can comments.

   / New fuel can comments. #81  
I use 2 part epoxy when installing my plugs. Eliminates all leaks and movement of vent plugs
Just be aware that many epoxies, maybe even most epoxies, are not fuel resistant. You don't just have to worry about it failing and leaking, but the remanants of whatever dissolves or crumbles into the gasoline then being run thru your expensive engine.

They do make specialty gasoline-resistant epoxies, so if you're doing this, it would be worth purchasing those flavors. However, I don't know why you'd really need your vent to be so especially tight, when it just needs to be splash-resistant for transport. It's a vent!

Your situation may vary, but for me, I'd guess this has the potential to cause more problems than it solves.
 
   / New fuel can comments. #82  
My vents all were leaking while transporting the,. Since epoxied over 3 years ago, no e leak. All are solid. None of the epoxy has dissolved .
 
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I installed one of the old fashioned nozzles in one of my new fuel cans. It also had the hard plastic hard plastic screens that extended several inches into the can. I spent less than 10 minutes installing the new vent and nozzle and 45 minutes getting that plastic screen out of the can. It kept falling all the way into the can and I had to mangle it up to get it out. I did rinse the can out with a little diesel to get any plastic bits out. The plastic screen is to the right of the can in my picture.
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Il revisit this thread one more time. I used the can I have pictured above that is modified with the old fashioned nozzle and vent. That didn’t go well, it’s heavy and hard to get the nozzle in the filler, I spilled maybe a pint of diesel. The filler on my tractor is on the fender but is a little above waist height. Just about all my cans want to spill fuel when full be it the new mandated cans or the old style. I remember someone posting in the past “you don’t have to fill them up”.

Not filling them up to 5 gallons is an option, 2 or 3 gallons is much easier to pour without spilling but it goes against my grain to not use something to capacity. I bought one of those little battery operated transfer pumps at Walmart today, about $17, an 8 pack of D batteries was nearly as much. It works surprisingly well, for now. I read reviews on various websites with mixed reviews, I’m hoping to use it for just the first couple of gallons out of the can and then pour the rest.
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   / New fuel can comments. #85  
I bought one of those little battery operated transfer pumps at Walmart today, about $17, an 8 pack of D batteries was nearly as much. It works surprisingly well, for now. I read reviews on various websites with mixed reviews, I’m hoping to use it for just the first couple of gallons out of the can and then pour the rest.

I've been using one of those little pumps for several years. I've found that if I place the gas can up high, above the level of the tank into which I want to add fuel, all I have to do is turn the pump on for a couple seconds. That starts a siphoning action and the rest of the fuel will flow without using the pump.
 
   / New fuel can comments. #86  
Il revisit this thread one more time. I used the can I have pictured above that is modified with the old fashioned nozzle and vent. That didn’t go well, it’s heavy and hard to get the nozzle in the filler, I spilled maybe a pint of diesel. The filler on my tractor is on the fender but is a little above waist height. Just about all my cans want to spill fuel when full be it the new mandated cans or the old style. I remember someone posting in the past “you don’t have to fill them up”.

Not filling them up to 5 gallons is an option, 2 or 3 gallons is much easier to pour without spilling but it goes against my grain to not use something to capacity. I bought one of those little battery operated transfer pumps at Walmart today, about $17, an 8 pack of D batteries was nearly as much. It works surprisingly well, for now. I read reviews on various websites with mixed reviews, I’m hoping to use it for just the first couple of gallons out of the can and then pour the rest.
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I looked long and hard at the 2R's before buying the 3R, and nearly went home with a 2038R they had on the lot. I really liked many things better about the 2R's, and one of those things was that their filler neck is accessible from the ground. I love the location in the fender, so easy to reach, that I'm surprised you're bothering with a pump for that tractor.

The 3R's have it in the top of the hood, just forward of the instrument cluster, meaning you have to haul your gas can up onto the tractor, and stand on the footboard to fill while either holding the can in the air or balancing it on the steering wheel. It really sucks.
 
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I’m 6 feet tall and the filler opening is above waist height for me. 5 gallons of diesel weighs 40 pounds and lifting a full can up a trying to use a free hand to get the nozzle in the opening is difficult.

I’ve found the new cans are easy to get up to the opening but then take a long time to fill the tractor. The new cans are fast but when full it’s easy to spill the fuel.
 
   / New fuel can comments. #88  
I’m 6 feet tall and the filler opening is above waist height for me. 5 gallons of diesel weighs 40 pounds and lifting a full can up a trying to use a free hand to get the nozzle in the opening is difficult.

I’ve found the new cans are easy to get up to the opening but then take a long time to fill the tractor. The new cans are fast but when full it’s easy to spill the fuel.
That makes sense. I have to admit that my admiration of that fuel filler location was purely from on-the-lot browsing, I never actually had to use it!

Re: 3033R, it always bothered me that, for something you're going to use so frequently, tractor manufacturers sure seem to put very little thought into the ergonomics associated with their fuel filler neck location. Maybe they just assume most buyers won't notice until after purchase, which might be true for first-time shoppers. But anyone who has owned a few tractors knows how much this can affect your love/hate relationship with the machine.
 
   / New fuel can comments. #89  
I looked long and hard at the 2R's before buying the 3R, and nearly went home with a 2038R they had on the lot. I really liked many things better about the 2R's, and one of those things was that their filler neck is accessible from the ground. I love the location in the fender, so easy to reach, that I'm surprised you're bothering with a pump for that tractor.

The 3R's have it in the top of the hood, just forward of the instrument cluster, meaning you have to haul your gas can up onto the tractor, and stand on the footboard to fill while either holding the can in the air or balancing it on the steering wheel. It really sucks.
My kioti is same, thats why i use electric pump

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The Kubota BX I had before was similar to my current JD, it was a little lower because it was a smaller tractor.

One thing that has happened is with plastics they can make very odd shaped gas tanks that hold quite a bit of fuel. That have to put it somewhere so the back of the tractor seems common.
 

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