News Flash: New LS Tractor MT2E Series (Picture and Facts)

[rider7767]

LS Tractor Releasing the New MT2E. My understand it will be 4 tractors. MT225E, MT230E, MT235E, and MT240E. Should be out very soon. Suppose to have a beefed up frame and Common Rail Direct Injection on the three larger models. I posted a video below.
News Flash: New LS Tractor MT2E Series (Picture and Facts) - YouTube

 

[rbstern]

I have been looking at the XG3025. The closest dealer told me last week his next shipment of XG3025 tractors was expected to be re-badged as the MT225, and would be in as early as next week. Said it was unchanged from the XG3025. I'll have to look closely when they arrive, because the tractor in the video you posted certainly has at least cosmetic changes (hood and headlights look different).

Enjoy your videos, btw. You get a lot of nice work done with that MT125.

 

[rbstern]

Afterthought: With LS moving toward "MTxyy" as their model naming convention (x for frame size, yy for horsepower), it leaves me wondering what they'll name the next generation XJ series, since it falls between the MT1 and MT2 size.

 

[Professor Marvel]

Afterthought: With LS moving toward "MTxyy" as their model naming convention (x for frame size, yy for horsepower), it leaves me wondering what they'll name the next generation XJ series, since it falls between the MT1 and MT2 size.

MT 1.5

 

[rider7767]

My information came from a person who has first hand knowledge and who has laid hands on the new tractor. The larger horse power tractors will have a much different engine without as much Regen headaches. There are some parts that are the same, but the frames are much heavier. I mis-spoke in the video. Its frame will be 10 gauge thicker than before. I am eager to see one in person.

I have been looking at the XG3025. The closest dealer told me last week his next shipment of XG3025 tractors was expected to be re-badged as the MT225, and would be in as early as next week. Said it was unchanged from the XG3025. I'll have to look closely when they arrive, because the tractor in the video you posted certainly has at least cosmetic changes (hood and headlights look different).
Enjoy your videos, btw. You get a lot of nice work done with that MT125.

 

[rider7767]

I will not be surprised if the XJ goes away. The MT125 almost fits that niche and has been selling 10 to 1 against the XJ (from a reliable source.) We will have to wait and see.

Afterthought: With LS moving toward "MTxyy" as their model naming convention (x for frame size, yy for horsepower), it leaves me wondering what they'll name the next generation XJ series, since it falls between the MT1 and MT2 size.

 

[rbstern]

I will not be surprised if the XJ goes away. The MT125 almost fits that niche and has been selling 10 to 1 against the XJ (from a reliable source.) We will have to wait and see.

That may well be, but that would leave a hole in the lineup at around 1900 pounds/25 horsepower, i.e, a tractor that competes with the Branson 2400, TYM 234, Yanmar SA324, etc. The X3025/MT225E is a pretty big step up in weight class from the MT125. 1,000 lbs difference.

If they are consciously abandoning that slice of the market, so be it, but it seems like a bread and butter area for some brands, and a good entry point for capturing future, brand-loyal customers.

 

[rider7767]

They may keep it, bringing it in to the MT2 premium line up. They are going to have a MT2E and a MT2 lineup. That may be where it is going. Both are 25HP. Your weights are wrong. On the LS page, It shows the tractor alone at 1609 lbs. The XJ only weighs 160 pounds more than the MT125 coming in at 1444 lbs tractor alone. They both go up as you add loaders and backhoes staying within 200 pounds of each other. Having said all of that. I think the larger tires on the XJ and the taller stance helps in some applications.

That may well be, but that would leave a hole in the lineup at around 1900 pounds/25 horsepower, i.e, a tractor that competes with the Branson 2400, TYM 234, Yanmar SA324, etc. The X3025/MT225E is a pretty big step up in weight class from the MT125. 1,000 lbs difference.

If they are consciously abandoning that slice of the market, so be it, but it seems like a bread and butter area for some brands, and a good entry point for capturing future, brand-loyal customers.

 

[rbstern]

They may keep it, bringing it in to the MT2 premium line up. They are going to have a MT2E and a MT2 lineup. That may be where it is going. Both are 25HP. Your weights are wrong. On the LS page, It shows the tractor alone at 1609 lbs. The XJ only weighs 160 pounds more than the MT125 coming in at 1444 lbs tractor alone. They both go up as you add loaders and backhoes staying within 200 pounds of each other. Having said all of that. I think the larger tires on the XJ and the taller stance helps in some applications.

Didn't realize the XJ was that light. Maybe they should beef up the frame? Still, my point remains: The new model naming convention doesn't have a "tweener" place in it for an XJ sized tractor.

 

[rider7767]

Sure it does. They have not announced any of the MT2 premium models. They may put the XJ there, because it has the newer look. We shall see.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

I found out today, from a reliable source, that the new MT 225e will have some sort of electronic fuel / governor control in order to prevent "up tuning" of the motor for more power. They also reported the step / floorboard has been reinforced. They also confirmed Tony's information about the addition of a toolbox and cup holder.

Dealers can start to order the MT2 series next week. There is a rumor that there is a dealer that actually received some of the 225e last Friday. I will try to confirm that tomorrow and report my findings.

 

[rbstern]

I found out today, from a reliable source, that the new MT 225e will have some sort of electronic fuel / governor control in order to prevent "up tuning" of the motor for more power.

So, they took a simple, known-to-be reliable engine, added electronic complexity that will reduce reliability, in order to prevent a very small percentage of customers who would try such mods.

My interest in the XG3025 was the LACK of such things on the engine. Not because I want to modify it. Because I want it to start every day for the next ten or twenty years.

Ugh. I've been juggling LS vs. Branson in my decision making. This may push me over to the Branson.

P.S. Thanks for the info!

 

[Diggin It]

I think the larger tires on the XJ and the taller stance helps in some applications.

The difference for me was that you have to remove the BH subframe to use the MMM on the 2025. I don't mow with the BH on, but I didn't want to have to be dealing with the subframe all the time.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

So, they took a simple, known-to-be reliable engine, added electronic complexity that will reduce reliability, in order to prevent a very small percentage of customers who would try such mods.

My interest in the XG3025 was the LACK of such things on the engine. Not because I want to modify it. Because I want it to start every day for the next ten or twenty years.

Ugh. I've been juggling LS vs. Branson in my decision making. This may push me over to the Branson.

P.S. Thanks for the info!

Yep, deciding factor for me too. I had the opportunity to purchase (order) an MT225e for only $200 more than a new XG3025 (late production, assembled in Jan2019). It was a hard decision but went with the 3025 due to no electronic controls. You can get a really good deal on them right now....they don't want to have a lot of stock of them left sitting on the lots when the MT's get officially released.

 

[rbstern]

Yep, deciding factor for me too. I had the opportunity to purchase (order) an MT225e for only $200 more than a new XG3025 (late production, assembled in Jan2019). It was a hard decision but went with the 3025 due to no electronic controls. You can get a really good deal on them right now....they don't want to have a lot of stock of them left sitting on the lots when the MT's get officially released.

Would have done exactly the same as you, except I plan to get a backhoe. LS sells the backhoe at an aggressive discount when you get the backhoe with a new tractor. My local dealer didn't have any more of the XG3025 in stock with the backhoe. Said he'd be getting the new model in shortly, some with backhoes. Seemed reasonable to wait, because he told me the tractor is unchanged from the XG3025. Now, that's not looking like accurate info.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Would have done exactly the same as you, except I plan to get a backhoe. LS sells the backhoe at an aggressive discount when you get the backhoe with a new tractor. My local dealer didn't have any more of the XG3025 in stock with the backhoe. Said he'd be getting the new model in shortly, some with backhoes. Seemed reasonable to wait, because he told me the tractor is unchanged from the XG3025. Now, that's not looking like accurate info.

I got the gear XG3025 with the BH. The dealer only had HST models in his stock, but transferred the gear model from another close by dealer. He had the BH in stock. To me the BH was a necessary attachment. It also has the updated new loader- - the LL3300, not the older 3110.

 

[rbstern]

I got the gear XG3025 with the BH. The dealer only had HST models in his stock, but transferred the gear model from another close by dealer. He had the BH in stock. To me the BH was a necessary attachment.

Well done. That kind of flexibility from a dealer is a good sign.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

They really did good for me. Package included the BH, 2 rear remotes, a 575# 60" heavy box blade, and a PHD w/ 9" auger, 66" bucket. They knocked off $3400 from their list price including delivery. I couldn't say no. The sales guy said he has never sold one at such a steep discount. Well, they sell a unit... I get a great price!

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

I can attest that there are no cosmetic differences between the MT2-25e and the 3025 except for the decals and badging. The dealer sent me some pics, but I can't get them to transfer to my IPad to post here. If I can get them to load, I will post them.

 

[rbstern]

LS Tractor Releasing the New MT2E. My understand it will be 4 tractors. MT225E, MT230E, MT235E, and MT240E. Should be out very soon. Suppose to have a beefed up frame and Common Rail Direct Injection on the three larger models. I posted a video below.
News Flash: New LS Tractor MT2E Series (Picture and Facts) - YouTube

Tony, it wasn't clear from what you wrote whether the MT225E has a beefier frame. Do you know?