Please Explain the use of a ToolBar/Drawbar

[Deadman]

I pin a clevice to mine, and skid logs all winter in the snow. Its great, because you can drop it all the way down, then chain the log tight, then you lift the 3 point arms n drawbar, and all the weight of the log gets transfered onto the tractors rear tires and makes for unbelievable traction. It also keeps the logs from rubbing thru and getting dirty. The heavier the log, the more traction I get!

 

[chipsndust]

I pin a clevice to mine, and skid logs all winter in the snow. Its great, because you can drop it all the way down, then chain the log tight, then you lift the 3 point arms n drawbar, and all the weight of the log gets transfered onto the tractors rear tires and makes for unbelievable traction. It also keeps the logs from rubbing thru and getting dirty. The heavier the log, the more traction I get!

You mean like this?

(That's what I do, too.)

 

[RalphVa]

I got one of these to adapt a soil ripper from a JD M to 3ph. Then I adapted the soil ripper to take a couple of disc hillers. The picture of this is below.

Ralph

 

[BWBrown]

The sliding drawbar can be fixed in the center, or at either extreme to pull wagons, or ground driven equipment, spreaders, etc. You can secure it to one side or the other to "offset" a piece of equipment, rake, baler,etc.

The location of the sliding bar makes it a bit safer (slightly less chance of a back-flip) in a BIG pull due to it's slightly lower Center of Gravity, and it pulls from an underside point a bit forward of the rear axle.

Allowed to move side to side, it makes tighter turns in the field possible if pulling a wagon.

 

[mojoinco]

The drawbar is simply an adjustable hitch mount (ball, clevis, pin, or similar). Most can be 'swung' to make the load pull where you want it (but locked into place). Many are also adjustable for length. As noted (sorry for being repetitive), if you are using the 3 point as a trailer hitch, you need to be aware of it moving up with a load shift. Kind of exciting when it happens. I used my spreader bar (old no loader tractor) for lifting things and pulling posts. Keep in mind that your lift arms are only so strong (in terms of side loads, backing, etc).

 

[The Haymaker]

I used mine to make a simple T-bar like JC-jetro has. Simply bolted a piece of 2" thickwall square stock to it with a hook welded up high. I also have two difference sized trailer balls on either end.

Couldn't live without it, it's on there any time there isn't an attachment. I will also be soon taking my front bracket and 4 suitcase weights I used to have for the traded out TZ25 and making some sort of bracket that will allow me to back up to it with the T-bar, pick up, and have an instant weight box.

For those who haven't seen it, here's my recent vid of the Tbar in action.

 

[Deadman]

You mean like this?

(That's what I do, too.)

Yep, but I use a chain hook style clevice, so it hooks right into the chain.

 

[chipsndust]

Yep, but I use a chain hook style clevice, so it hooks right into the chain.

Deadman:
After he watched me fumble around for a while trying to haul a log, my father (who was around 80 years old at the time) told me "That's why a log chain has a slip hook on one end and a grab hook on the other."

Since then, I put the end of the chain with the slip hook on it around the log, put the slip hook on the chain and choke up the chain until the slip hook is against the log. Get the back of the tractor as close to the log as I can, with the 3PH down. Pull the end of the chain with the grab hook on it through the clevis, leaving no slack. Put the grab hook on a link so the chain can't slide back through the clevis. Lift the 3PH and the end of the log is off the ground.

 

[Deadman]

^^^^ exactly how I do it, but instead of a normal Clevis, I have a chain-hook clevice. Instead of using a normal clevis that has a hoop to loop the chain thru, my clevice just has the "grab hook" on the end of it, so i just slip the grab hook of the clevice over the shortest possible link of the chain, and go. No need to wrap all the chain around stuff to use up the extra slack.
maybe this pic will help, its hard to see, so look close!

 

[eepete]

I'm reading this thread and looking at the Clevis pins. Some are "flat", some are "twisted". Flat one have the hoop in line with the pin, twisted ones have the hoop 180 degrees out from the pin.

With all the pictures I've seen, it looks like it would not make a difference which one you use. In cases where the pin is on a 3 point drawbar that can rotate, it can't make a difference. In cases where it's on the drawbar attached under the transmission on the tractor, you can pick which hoop orientation you want but everything I'm seeing has a chain hooked to it and it wouldn't matter. This would also be the case for the 3 point drawbar that is fixed horizontally via some connection up to the top link.

So I'm just curious as to which applications would require one type vs. another.

Pete