Let's just say I started building this barn under the county's radar and got caught. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Actually I didn't realize I needed a permit for a pole barn but, they set me straight. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif No fines they just required I get a permit which was a project in itself. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Anyway, due to the stall, the recycled 2"x13" heart pine floor joist I was going to use started to curl pretty bad, so I had to back up and punt. Since the county is overseeing the project now and the recent stiffening in codes due to hurricanes, I decided to use double 2"x12" notched into the poles an inch and a half.