Post Emissions tractors

[5030]

Don't really matter what brand you own, if it's T4 acceptable, it will be ECM (electronic controlled engine with common rail injection) and some sort of post combustion device to lower emissions and they are all much more complex than Pre 4 mechainical injection. Been my experience that the more complex an engine becomes, the more chance for failure down the road.

Why I keep and maintain my pre 4 tractors and will never buy a post 4-5 unit. (Yes), 5 is coming down next.

 

[ptsg]

Don't really matter what brand you own, if it's T4 acceptable, it will be ECM (electronic controlled engine with common rail injection) and some sort of post combustion device to lower emissions and they are all much more complex than Pre 4 mechainical injection. Been my experience that the more complex an engine becomes, the more chance for failure down the road.

Why I keep and maintain my pre 4 tractors and will never buy a post 4-5 unit. (Yes), 5 is coming down next.

Wrong as usual. Not everyone uses Common rail engines. Kukje/Branson still uses a fully mechanical engine with a fully mechanical injection VE pump. The only wire it gets to run is the one for the fuel shutoff solenoid. TYM is the same way on the models with the Kukje engine.

 

[K5lwq]

Don't really matter what brand you own, if it's T4 acceptable, it will be ECM (electronic controlled engine with common rail injection)

This is simple not correct. The Branson does not have a ECM and has direct injection but still is T4 compliant.

 

[5030]

This is simple not correct. The Branson does not have a ECM and has direct injection but still is T4 compliant.

Care to provide a link for your claim? I don't buy it. Maybe under 25 horsepower as with all units so far but over 25, don't think so, like I said, Substantiate your comment with a link or hard facts, not your opinion. They may not have an ECM but I don't believe they don't have some sort of post treatment of exhaust gasses.

Having said that I don't know squat about a Branson, no dealers anywhere around here anyway.

 

[5030]

Wrong as usual. Not everyone uses Common rail engines. Kukje/Branson still uses a fully mechanical engine with a fully mechanical injection VE pump. The only wire it gets to run is the one for the fuel shutoff solenoid. TYM is the same way on the models with the Kukje engine.

Gee, bet they still have some sort of post treatment of exhaust gas here in the states (over 25 horsepower). They have to, to sell them here. That is an EPA mandate.

Don't know how it plays in Portugal and candidly don't care one bit.

 

[ptsg]

Gee, bet they still have some sort of post treatment of exhaust gas here in the states (over 25 horsepower). They have to, to sell them here. That is an EPA mandate.

Don't know how it plays in Portugal and candidly don't care one bit.

Literally read the posts above. Much easier than throwing out non sense as you usually do.

No one said they didn't use some sort of emissions controls. They have to. You claimed that all Tier 4 tractors had an ECM and were Common rail engines, which is simply not true, as I and K5 explained to you.

Yes they use DPF now (21 models) and used a DOC before, however this is a standalone unit that is not tied with the engine by any means. It's simply a data logger to keep track of the state of the DPF and decided when to regen or not. So if it will magically fall off, you have a perfectly good running tractors without all the emission stuff on it.

 

[VroomVroom]

No way to take that stuff off? What about those rotor Jeep’s. They have the emissions control too?

 

[CausticUrbanCoast]

It is not that you NEED an ecu for emissions, it is feature creep and marketing's grubby hands.

"We have this computer thing a majigiggy... can we use it to get better fuel usage? Yeah? That will make it more sellable. .... Can we make it remind you when to change the oil and filters? Yeah, that's great, I have a customer thats been asking for it for years!. .... hmm what about detecting too much water in the diesel before it fouls things up? WE can do that TOO!!! I LOVE YOU GUYS!a I can sell this for a bucket load more than that old dumb model!"

 

[K5lwq]

I am in the US and own one that was sold new here to me. 48HP and no ECM, has direct injection and runs great with or without the DOC.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

I will just post a link to my own thread on what I did to my "post Tier 4" tractor to remove the DPF/DOC filter:

Exhaust Mod on my 3725

And I can absolutely state it as FACT that the Branson will run without any issues at all if you take the exhaust filter and data logger off.

Mine's been running that way for over 2 years now. Not. One. Single. Problem. since taking it off.

And mine's a 37 hp.

Care to provide a link for your claim? I don't buy it. Maybe under 25 horsepower as with all units so far but over 25, don't think so, like I said, Substantiate your comment with a link or hard facts, not your opinion. They may not have an ECM but I don't believe they don't have some sort of post treatment of exhaust gasses.

Having said that I don't know squat about a Branson, no dealers anywhere around here anyway.

I know you're just itchin' to argue over things, but in this particular case, you are dead wrong.

And we know you don't know squat about Branson's. It doesn't seem to stop you from making wrong statements though.

"Frequently Wrong, Never In Doubt".

Don't you go changin' buddy.