Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis

   / Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #11  
Wen, have you looked in the Landpride catalog? It shows a whole bunch of 6 foots hooked together side by side. Probably $$$ but sure would cut down on the mowing time. That way you could run 1 of them or a bunch of them depending on width requirements.
 
   / Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #12  
Sorry to here of the depression your going through.I don't write to many posts but i've been reading everything for the past 8-9 months. Before I found this site I knew I had to have an L series tractor, and after reading I learned when its all said and done what will the main chores of the tractor be? I've had my B2710 for about five weeks and could not have made a better choice. I know it won't yank out a big stump but once its out of the ground its all mine.
So maybe in the long run you do have the right size so don't get tractor envy yet, like Will said earlier, get a dozer to move the rocks and use your BX to clean up afterwards. Those rocks would probibly beat-up the big boys tractors to. Hey but Im just a city boy sitting on orange with a big smile. Tom H.
 
   / Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #13  
You've put a lot of research into this project; I wouldn't sell youself short just yet.

I'd compare the tasks that the BX does well against the tasks that the BX doesn't do well. I'd guess that the BX strong points are aligned with long-term duties while the tasks the BX doesn't do well are short-term (5 years or less?).

I get the feeling that even if you upgraded to a B2410 (maybe even a B2710 or B2910) that you may be just as dissatisfied, possibly even more so. Most rental companies in the SouthEast US rent mid-sized tractors (25-35hp) with loaders for around $150/day or less. As part of your evaluation process, I'd recommend renting one of these tractors for a day and see how much more you gain or lose compared with your BX. I think that you'll find that after you use it for a while, you'll possibly find the gains less that what you anticipated and the losses greater than what you anticipated.

From my tractor background, I started out with a good old used 16 hp B7100 4wd gear drive. It did fine but there were a few shortcomings, so I shopped around until I found a good deal on a used 24 hp B2150 HSD with loader. It filled most of the shortcomings of the B7100 but there were things that the B7100 did better. So I ended up keeping both tractors and now am very pleased with the pair (except that I would rather not have to maintain 2 tractors). I would also like to point out that I rented the John Deere tractor (4wd/loader/33hp?) from the local rental center before I purchased the B2150. With the rental tractor I was both surprised by what it would do as well as what it couldn't do (very educational for me); therefore, when I purchased the B2150 I knew what to expect and had very few surprises.
 
   / Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #14  
Just curious, are you having problem finding 42" rotary mowers, or having a problem finding 42" rotary mower with certain specifications?

I do mostly finish mowing, but I do have a 42" rotary mower that I bought for use on my B7100 and now use it on both the B7100 and the B2150. So far I am pleased with it.
 
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Hey, thank you all for the thoughtful public and private replies.

I took another "tractor day' off from work to talk to my dealer--prepared to bathe. I'll report below, but first a few comments on your comments.

The stump-pulling complaint was more illustrative of my general displeasure with the BX hydraulics than a complaint about stump perfomance per se. I fully realize that loaders are not stump pullers. But I was referring to mere 1.5 inchers. The more generic dissatisfaction with the BX arises from those very areas where the designers were forced to compromise. First, the 3ph geometry, which is small in all dimensions, necessitating small and light implements that are a struggle to attach. Second, the ground clearance is very low, like a garden tractor. Third, the hydraulic system is significantly weaker than all other compacts, degrading loader and 3ph lift capacity. Before I purchased the tractor I assumed these compromises would not be important to me. I was wrong. Aside from mowing, I now know that I want--how to say this-- a real tractor.

I do understand that I could pay someone else to do the bigger jobs. But what i didnt say is, that's what I have been doing for 9 years, and the avoidance of same was financial justification for the tractor. For my one acre lot that is now a lawn, I paid $12K for bulldozers, graders, rock rakes, and lawn installation. For my two acres along the creek, I paid about $2K for someone to brush hog phragmites, bramblethorns and cut a hundred willow trees (all three of which being on my top 10 list of God's cruel horticultural jokes), which are the stumps I now face. And, I had been paying to have my lawn mowed for 9 years. This year, I have been trying to maintain these 4 acres with my walk-behind DR brush cutter/46" mower deck--and badly losing the battle while breaking the dang machine every single weekend. Hence I dont want to pay others any more.

Well, back to the dealer. There was no bath! Thank goodness for the hot BX market. The dealer offered to take back the machine for a charge of $300 for the 24 meter hours. What a deal; i couldnt have rented anything for that price! I'm feeling better already.

So I spent the rest of the day tooling around on 7500's, 2410's, 2710's and 2910's at my dealer's two sites and at Tracorman's. I can buy any of the above for the same 12% of list as I paid for the BX. I dont want the 7500, so this means I can have the 2410 for an upgrade price of $4883; a 2710, for $6045; or a 2910, for $6995. Guess what I'm leaning towards.

Wrong. I'm leaning towards the 2410. The financial me believes this is model is probably the worst value in the B line, because it is a lot more than a 7500 but not much less than a 2710. And then, if you want a 2710, why not another $950 for a 2910. But this incremental logic would inexorably take us all up to the Guiness Machine. The ratchet must stop somewhere, and I just like the size and features of the 2410, even though it may not be the best value for the dollar. It cures all the ills, for me, of the BX; and the 27/29 frame size just looks and feels to big to me. Plus those 4 cylinder engines feel and sound rougher and vibrate more than the smaller 3 cylinders. Importantly, I must remember that I appreciate greatly the BX's mowing maneuverablily around my 20-30 lawn trees, and I also face a soft soil (ie, tractor weight) issue for my 2 creek acres.

On the other hand, my dealer has no 2410 loaders or mowers in stock but does have 27's and 29's. AAAAGGHH, here I go again..........

But at least I feel better, knowing I have options. After all, what is life about if not health and options.

Glenn
 
   / Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #16  
GLENNMAC
I TO DEBATED OVER WHAT TRACTOR I WANTED FOR MANY MONTHS.I WAS BETWEEN A J.D.4100 AND 790 AND THE BX2200 .NOT KNOWING WHAT IT TOOK TO GET THE JOB DONE . PRICE,PHSYICAL SIZE AND JUST WHO MADE THE BETTER TRACTOR ALSO WERE DILEMAS.I CHOSE THE BX2200 IT WAS THE MOST COMPACT,BEST PRICED,AND WAS HIGHLY RECONDMENDED TO ME BY FELLOW WORKERS AND FRIENDS.I HAVE 1 1/2 ACRES THAT I NEEDED TO GRADE FOLLOWING A NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION.I PURCHASED A 48" BOX BLADE BORROWED A 6' YORK RAKE AND WENT TO WORK. I MOVED HUNDREDS OF YARDS OF DIRT,MANY LARGE AND SMALL ROCKS,AND BUCKET FULLS OF STONES.MY TRACTOR PERFORMED FLAWLESSLY,IT DID EVERY THING I COULD THROW AT IT,GRANTED I MAY HAVE TAKEN LONGER THEN A LARGER TRACTOR OR PAYING SOMEONE WITH A DOZER,BUT I DEFINETLY LEARNED MY TRACTOR AND ITS ABILITIES WHILE UNDERTAKING THIS PROJECT.I KNOW HAVE MY YARD PLANTED WITH SEED AND IT IS GROWING VERY NICE.I USE A 60" BELLY MOWER ON MY BX2200 TO CUT THE GRASS AND EVEN WITH THE YOUNG BLADES THE BX2200 DOES NOT SEEM TO DAMEAGE THE GRASS AT ALL.THE TRACTOR IS SO NICE TO DRIVE WHILE CUTTING THE GRASS I HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING MY WIFE TO LEAVE ANY OF IT FOR ME.
 
   / Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #17  
Glen, glad to hear that the dealer is stepping up to the plate and then some. Now here is my two cents---bigger is better!!! I think you'll find that the 27 or the 29 might be the better choice. Don't end up kicking yourself in the butt twice./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

See if the dealer has a used or will let you take the 27 or 29 to the land for a demo just to see ahead of time if it's going to live up to what YOU want your tractor to do. Just a thought. Have you looked at the L-series the ratchet has to stop somewhere and that sure would be a good place for it to klick./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Good luck with the never ending head spinning chore of picking out the correct tractor. But there is no one tractor thats perfect for everything. Some days I wish my tractor had another 20hp and other days I wish it was half it's size but still had the same hp. Just have to find that fine dividing line between the two or if in doubt---just go larger.
Gordon
 
   / Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #18  
Nothing like having a good dealer./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif And of course I agree with Gordon; especially since I have a B2710 for my 10 acres and wouldn't really be happy with anything less./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Bird
 
   / Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #19  
In 1996 I got fed up my job since I had done yard work I thought I would do it full time. I did not know anything about tractors, still don't know much.So I bought a L2650.The 10 series in the B and L were not out yet.The dealer did not tell me about Grand L'S.If I had to do over I would go with the B series.It would be easier to transport and easier to move around in new yards,which many are small.It also would be better in my own yard [ 3acres]and sloping.Also wooded.
 
   / Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #20  
Glenn....I recommend you ignore your "financial me" and pay attention to what all these other experienced owners are saying about buying larger. I also think your concern about a larger tractor being a problem for mowing is not on target. Park and golf course grounds crews and commercial mowing operators use 27 hp or 29 hp and larger tractors for mowing all the time without difficulty. (Turf tires recommended.) If you get a belly mower, you will have no problem maneuvering around beds and bushes. I think the previous recommendation to try the 27 or 29 hp tractor with mower on your lawn before buying is an excellent suggestion. GO FOR IT and be prepared to change that depression to a big, big smile!!!!
 

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