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Problems trying to install chains on rear wheels of JD 2320
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I found that tire chains are sold that are too big for the tires, and drop down too far on the sidewalls. That was going to be too close to the fender on my 4300, even after gaining the extra inch by turning the tires around.
The problem is the cross links are too long.
That prompted me to make up my own chains, with shorter cross links and longer side chains. This has worked out very well for me, and the side chains run in the dip at the end of the tire lugs.
(on the wrong computer to post a pic, but I have posted this info before)
The problem is the cross links are too long.
That prompted me to make up my own chains, with shorter cross links and longer side chains. This has worked out very well for me, and the side chains run in the dip at the end of the tire lugs.
(on the wrong computer to post a pic, but I have posted this info before)
I'm going to start a different post to deal with some aspects of this, but I may have found a solution to this chain problem and would like the opinion of the forum members.
As has been discussed, spacers are an option, but so are rims. I have found a manufacturer of custom rims who can make me a set of rims for my rear wheels that will move the tires/wheels out to where I want them. These rims would be identical to my existing JD rims, but would be out of heavier steel, stronger, have a thicker hub, and would step the tires out whatever distance I want. I thought I'd step out 1" to 1 1/2".
The cost of these rims would be $190 each. That's a lot in some ways, BUT, it's really not much more than what I've been quoted for spacers. As a matter of fact, several of the quotes I've had for spacers have been much higher than that.
I'm also thinking that the custom rims would likely be better than spacers because (1) I don't have to deal with spacers AND rims, and (2) the rims would mount as per normal using the same bolts as the stock rims.
I can even get them done up in traditional JD yellow.
This company has been building custom rims for agriculture and automotive application for many years, and they supply a lot of equipment manufacturers. They guarantee me that all parts of their rims will be heavier and stronger than the stock JD rims, and that they will easily support much more weight even though they are stepped out.
So, my thoughts are that the custom rims would be a better way to go than spacers. What are your opinions on this?
As has been discussed, spacers are an option, but so are rims. I have found a manufacturer of custom rims who can make me a set of rims for my rear wheels that will move the tires/wheels out to where I want them. These rims would be identical to my existing JD rims, but would be out of heavier steel, stronger, have a thicker hub, and would step the tires out whatever distance I want. I thought I'd step out 1" to 1 1/2".
The cost of these rims would be $190 each. That's a lot in some ways, BUT, it's really not much more than what I've been quoted for spacers. As a matter of fact, several of the quotes I've had for spacers have been much higher than that.
I'm also thinking that the custom rims would likely be better than spacers because (1) I don't have to deal with spacers AND rims, and (2) the rims would mount as per normal using the same bolts as the stock rims.
I can even get them done up in traditional JD yellow.
This company has been building custom rims for agriculture and automotive application for many years, and they supply a lot of equipment manufacturers. They guarantee me that all parts of their rims will be heavier and stronger than the stock JD rims, and that they will easily support much more weight even though they are stepped out.
So, my thoughts are that the custom rims would be a better way to go than spacers. What are your opinions on this?
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Keep it in the same post, so it stays connected...please
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Keep it in the same post, so it stays connected...please
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I'd say, if you're happy with that rim manufacturer, go for the rims.
Prices I've seen on spacers went from expensive (same price as the rims you quoted) to astronomical ($800 plus).
Personally, I'd rather have the rims.
Good luck...and good job in finding that rim manufacturer!
I don't know what the rules are for posting company names on the forum so I'll not do that, but if anybody else wants the name of the company that makes the rims just drop me a note and I'll pass it on to you. They are in Canada, but they said they ship a LOT of product to the US.
Zebrafive
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Since you are considering buying custom rims/wheels, have you considered having them make them with bolt in centers so you can have multiple tread widths to choose from?
bp fick
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With spacers, you'd have no tire dismount/mount cost or hassle. Just something to throw into the hopper. I'd have spacers, but that's me. A machine shop can make some spacers for far less than new wheels @ $200 per, plus mounting costs.
All you need to feel comfortable is a 1"-2" spacer? Can you share with us the prices you've gotten on spacers? Best regards
All you need to feel comfortable is a 1"-2" spacer? Can you share with us the prices you've gotten on spacers? Best regards
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BP, do you have spacers? If so, where did you get them and about how much?
Just curious...
I agree the matter of taking the tires off the old rims and putting them on the new rims would be a pain in the butt. Especially as they are filled with calcium. The only good thing about that is that when I got the tractor the dealership had already put calcium in the rear wheels but they didn't use a tube. I prefer to have a tube if I'm going to have calcium, so have been thinking of having the tires/rims taken apart anyway to put tubes in them.
As far as spacers go I've only found three companies that might be able to offer them. One of them looked like a pretty good product but they specialized in Kubota and didn't actually have any for a JD 2320. They had made them for the JD 2305 in the past, but never for a 2320. So they were unsure of the design. The other two said they could make them for the JD 2320, but again had never actually done so and were estimating prices between $175 and $275 per spacer.
As has been said, any GOOD machine shop should be able to make them, but I live in a small rural community and there are no local machine shops. As most on this forum know better than I, proper spacers are going to be more than just a couple of chunks of steel with a few holes drilled into them. The inside surface has to be machined to fit over the hub perfectly, and the outside surface has to be machined to support the rim as the hub was designed to do. And then there is the bolt pattern to deal with, and you are going to need the right grade of bolts in the correct length. If they are sloppy or the fit in any way is less than perfect they would be useless. The only practical way for me to get spacers would be to obtain them from a company that already has the exact specs and has made them in the past.
Given the number of JD 2320 tractors out there, and the fact that John Deere (for whatever reason) does not offer spacers or offset rims to deal with an obvious problem, I would have thought there would be a number of after market companies offering such items. Logic says somebody, somewhere, would have a CNC lathe programmed to make these things. But apparently not. At least I can't find them.
If anybody knows of a company that actually makes quality spacers SPECIFICALLY for the John Deere 2320 I'd be most interested in getting their contact information. I would certainly consider spacers as an option, if I could find any decent ones. But so far the only option I have where I can just order the part and be done with it would be to go with the rims. I'm open to any suggestions.
I still can't believe JD does not offer them. I honestly thought the parts guy was joking with me when he first said they didn't have them! And then again later when he said they didn't have any off set rims either. I'm glad it came with a draw bar!
As far as spacers go I've only found three companies that might be able to offer them. One of them looked like a pretty good product but they specialized in Kubota and didn't actually have any for a JD 2320. They had made them for the JD 2305 in the past, but never for a 2320. So they were unsure of the design. The other two said they could make them for the JD 2320, but again had never actually done so and were estimating prices between $175 and $275 per spacer.
As has been said, any GOOD machine shop should be able to make them, but I live in a small rural community and there are no local machine shops. As most on this forum know better than I, proper spacers are going to be more than just a couple of chunks of steel with a few holes drilled into them. The inside surface has to be machined to fit over the hub perfectly, and the outside surface has to be machined to support the rim as the hub was designed to do. And then there is the bolt pattern to deal with, and you are going to need the right grade of bolts in the correct length. If they are sloppy or the fit in any way is less than perfect they would be useless. The only practical way for me to get spacers would be to obtain them from a company that already has the exact specs and has made them in the past.
Given the number of JD 2320 tractors out there, and the fact that John Deere (for whatever reason) does not offer spacers or offset rims to deal with an obvious problem, I would have thought there would be a number of after market companies offering such items. Logic says somebody, somewhere, would have a CNC lathe programmed to make these things. But apparently not. At least I can't find them.
If anybody knows of a company that actually makes quality spacers SPECIFICALLY for the John Deere 2320 I'd be most interested in getting their contact information. I would certainly consider spacers as an option, if I could find any decent ones. But so far the only option I have where I can just order the part and be done with it would be to go with the rims. I'm open to any suggestions.
I still can't believe JD does not offer them. I honestly thought the parts guy was joking with me when he first said they didn't have them! And then again later when he said they didn't have any off set rims either. I'm glad it came with a draw bar!
