Question For Connecting Double Lever Control Valve

[ampa]

Don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but here's a little advice for the OP:

If you want your posts to be more readable (and possibly elicit more responses) consider using multiple sentences with a period at the end, and occasionally using the return key on your keyboard to break your posts into paragraphs ......

Can't speak for others, but when I see stuff like your post above my eyes just sorta glaze over .....

And now I'll put away my grammar police hat ....... :laughing:

<<<>>>!!! duh !!!......Where abouts is the return key on a computers keyboard anyhow?.....I really don't mind bein' told about my poor grammar..... seein' I only made it to grade 6 in public school...and no futher.....wish now I had put my mind into learnin' all the important things in life....instead of payin' my full attention to all the cute little girls in my class:...."duh".........I'll go back to my old old normal technic....which is usin' a whole bunch of periods(PERIOD).....or (THESE)<<<<<>>>but thanks guy for bringin' it to my full attention......oh' by the way I wasn't the only guy that chased all the cute little girls....but with me seems at the time I couldn't walk and chew gum at the same time....."NOW".... can I please take off this stupid lookin' dunce hat <<<<<>>>>>>>Ampa<<<>>> have a good day ( "THE END")

 

[DonnieP]

I just bought one two weeks ago from Princess Auto, that's why I'm familiar with them.
Blb hydraulic - Products - Catalog - BM Series

If you look at the schematic at the bottom of the page, you can see where if you add the 'Hi Pressure Carry Over' you tie the T2 port for the PB and the T1 goes to your return.

Go to the configuration page and click on the outlet adapter and you can get several different adapters to go in the side T port.

 

[ampa]

"HI" Donnie<<>>>Since the only spot I could place my control valve was on the rear fender.....think I'll just plug the side inlet closest to the edge of the fender....and use the top(inlet) port... I noticed that your in eastern Canada.....I'm up here in southern Ontario....near Toronto.....and a born northerner....have been a part time musician off and on for many years and still play a good ol' American made electric Fender Jazz bass guitar for a Newfie musician buddy of mine who runs his own 4 pc. band....I play every second Sat. for his 3-7 pm. matinee gig and have been for the past 3 years here in Ontario...I've also personaly known this guy for the past 40 years or more ....my lady was born in St. Johns New Brunswick she was only 19 years old and just married when she came to Ontario back in 1949......I was born in 1941...( Oops...givin' my age and hers away..............she is a bit older.....but... much wiser than I......anyhow....Donnie I really appreciate your patience and all your help and sincere input to my hydraulic issues......take care<<<>>>Ampa :thumbsup:

 

[J_J]

I just bought one two weeks ago from Princess Auto, that's why I'm familiar with them.
Blb hydraulic - Products - Catalog - BM Series

If you look at the schematic at the bottom of the page, you can see where if you add the 'Hi Pressure Carry Over' you tie the T2 port for the PB and the T1 goes to your return.

Go to the configuration page and click on the outlet adapter and you can get several different adapters to go in the side T port.

You are correct. The first link never mentioned anything about the PB. Thanks

 

[ampa]

The top diagram shows a 3 lever/handle or triple control type valve....but still the same animal so to speak.... I'm completely okay to go......and finish up this project of mine.....once again thanks to you Donnie and you as well J_J for all your sincere patience and knowlage.....you guys are just super....super...I couldn't have done this hydraulic project without you two helpin' me along... I know all you guys like pictures so here's 16 of them(some of them are duplicates...dark and blurry....please note* no fault of my newest FUJI 10 meg pixel camera.....I'm just no good at photographry besides this a larger type camera built around the style of an SLR....a normal pocket camera would have been a better choice....the 4 pics of the dash show the mini gauges I installed about two years ago to replace the idiot lights for which out of 3.... only the amps light worked so I decieded to leave it in the system...I still need to connect the amp meter to the alternator.....as it's connected to the battery side (volts) and only shows the - negitive draw from my starter/acc lights e.t.c....it's way too work removin' the dash.... so for now I'll leave well enough alone.... take care<<<>>>Ampa

 

[DonnieP]

Lookin' good! At least you found a place to mount your valve. I'm in the proccess of installing a set of rear remotes. I got the same valve as you a couple of weeks ago and ordered the top link from Princess Auto, it came in today. I made a bracket to mount the valve on the ROPS but it was in the way, handles kept hitting me in the shoulder. I'll have to try another bracket, maybe tomorrow.

 

[ampa]

Hi Donnie.....I'm thinkin' maybe I should use the side out port (T) and buy the PB adapter because my tractor uses it's hydraulics for the rear 3 pt, and it does have an internal valve... just because I removed the lever does not change how it works....but what about the in port on the side closest to the edge of the fender for this and for neatness(hoses) best bet to use the top input port (1/4" thread)....so now.... do I have to plug each and every port that I'll not be usin' :confused2: ?...I'd like to get this all correct before I have hydraulic fluid shootin' out all over me and the tractor....like I mentioned before.....I know nothing about these valves or how they work....only what you've explained to me....thanks once again<<<>>>Ampa

 

[DonnieP]

You'll need to plug or use every port. The way I understand it, you will be using one valve for a single acting cyclinder. So you plan to use only one port of that valve to raise the blade. When you return that valve to neutral, the blade will stay raised, correct? Now to lower the blade, you'll have to move the valve the other direction and let gravity lower the blade. Now when you move the valve past centre to lower the blade, you'll be putting supply pressure on the plugged port and most likely lifting the safety valve. I don't know if lifting the safety every time you lower the blade is ok or not, I wouldn't think so. You have to do something with that port, you can't leave it open, maybe it could be plumbed to the drain.

I'm like you, just learned this stuff. It just happens that I'm just a couple of weeks ahead of you, so it's fresh in my head. Maybe someone who is light years ahead of us can answer that. Ampa, there is one heck of a pile of knowledge on the site isn't there?

 

[ampa]

I'm slowly gettin' the picture Donnie....ok now......you say when I use the single acting ram...lever center(nuetral position will keep the pressure on the ram......what happens when I do get around to to installing the double acting ram for my angle operation


....It requires me to use both ports....maybe and just maybe the top ports are to be plumbed back into the system by way of a "TEE" fitting.....I'm just thinking out loud here....I do wish someone would come on here and set us straight here....I do know that I won't be satisfied till I find out the proper connections to make the system work proper......and safely.... also since I'll be changing all the hydraulic fluid in my rear axle.... I picked up two 10 litre jugs of new stuff about 2 months ago on sale @ PRINCESS AUTO.


....When I first bought this tractor... the boot on the shifter was shot and letting some water into the trans/ rear axle....just how much I don't know this.....I do know water will go to the bottom....and just lay there till it get churned up by the gers in the axle then it starts to foam a yellow color....which mine does when I pull the stick to check the level which is always a little over the full mark...anyhow I had planned at some time to tap into my hydraulics...if I could have got a good deal on a FL....I would have went that route seein' I could attach a plough to the FL.(KTBAOT)...but reading about the damage that these FL do to the front 4 wheel drives.....I'm a bit leary of puttin' that burden on a greymarket tractor that parts are hard to come by


....I even thought that the chains I installed one winter were not doin' the front axle of my 4x4 ISEKI any good so I removed them....and have since cut them up....I felt I really didn't need chains anyhow... as with the new knobby ATV type tires I bought from PRINCESS AUTO about two years ago on sale...last winter even with the old but good used truck tires I had the tire shop install on the rear to replace the old TURF rotted/filled tires that came with this tractor.... it did a fine job of ploughin' snow usin' my rear graderblade....that I recently sold along with a finishmower



.....Now I may need to place some type of balast on the rear of the tractorno more than what the graderblade weighed which was approx 150 lbs including the frame......but I'll cross that bridge later....i know one thing I won't be gettin' a stiff neck lookin' back end of the tractor....I clipped many trees e.t.c......nearly clipped someones car...that would have been a disaster on my part.....so when and if.....and my eye sight remains the same.....I can see where I'm goin' with no blind spots.....I may put two rods of some sort on the blade to remind me it's there....anyhow Donnie....we are both lookin' for the correct answers.....and I'm quite sure we'll get them....once again thanks for your input....and also this TBN forum on hydraulics<<<<>>>>>Ampa :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[J_J]

On using the B port for the SA cyl, some say to plug the B port, and let the relief drop the cyl. 5 to 10 times an hour is not going to hurt anything. The other way is to plumb the B port to tank or tee into another hose going to tank. And yes, you have to plug the ports not in use. You can also remove the handle on the unused spool, so you don't accidentally push it. Even if you do, the relief will squeal and let you know something is not right. If there will be other valves downstream, install the PB sleeve, and the PB output goes to the 3pt.. The return/tank port for that valve goes to tank.