Questions On Switching To Rotella Synthetic

[TresCrows]

"My vw diesel engines and most euro and other non-american oil bribed motor cars say 7500 -15K . Most american cars are at 3000 yet are capable of 10K mile drain intervals no problem with proper stuff."

What does the above statement mean? 3000 what? What is bribed mean? What constitues the "proper stuff"? If I understand what you are saying you are incorrect, most American cars also say 7500 miles for oil changes, yep, the three Fords I have owned said that in the manual and so does my wife's Jeep Liberty, my mother's Ford and just about every car I have owned or seen. The oil companies are not "bribing" anyone. The quick change industry does like the buisness however.
There always has to be a conspirocy does not there? Like I said once before, when I worked for a major oil company we all sat around laughing at you petroleum consumers about the secret formula that we stole from the guy in the 50's that turned water into gasoline for free. Yep, and we even had the formula for turning lead into gold, alchemy, perpetual motion, free energy--all sounds great--it is all of course a fantasy---right? /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif J

 

[Egon]

There is no Fantasy. We all know the Majors have a 300 mile carburator design hidden deep in their musty vaults so kept that only two people have access.

Egon

 

[pruntyc]

I remember hearing about that 300 mile carburater, years ago. I think they destroyed all the plans to it though. They were afraid someone would find them and build them and cost them too much money is lost sales of gas. I heard the gas companys bought them out. They also probably had engines that would run a million miles to, but didn't let us know about them.

 

[Junkman]

I remember hearing about someone in the 1960's that was always bragging about the great mileage that his Volkswagen got..... better than 100 mpg..... what he didn't know was the the neighbors were putting gas into the tank when he was asleep....... they did this to him for a couple of months until one day they siphoned almost all of it out..... He filled the tank, thinking it was strange to have such poor mileage and that evening they did the same again..... He ran out of gas on the way to work and called the dealer complaining about the poor milage...... for months afterwords he swore that he must have had a special model that they were testing and that was why he got such good mileage at first and then VW removed the components from his car without his knowledge...... He actually believed this for many years until someone finally told him about the hoax...... Now about that 300 mpg carburetor...... for a fee, I will sell you the plans..... LOL.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[shady1701]

<font color="blue"> What does the above statement mean? 3000 what? What is bribed mean? What constitues the "proper stuff"? If I understand what you are saying you are incorrect, most American cars also say 7500 miles for oil changes, yep, the three Fords I have owned said that in the manual and so does my wife's Jeep Liberty, my mother's Ford and just about every car I have owned or seen. The oil companies are not "bribing" anyone. The quick change industry does like the buisness however. </font>

Go get a clue..Everyone's so full of it...



VW does have a car capable of 80+ mpg
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If a 90hp 4000# car can get 45 why not.

 

[TresCrows]

"Go get a clue..Everyone's so full of it... "

No argument there /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif



"VW does have a car capable of 80+ mpg "

Good, glad to hear that, still would not have one, can it pull my Kubota, carry me off road, carry my motorcycles or a pull a trailer loaded with rock, no. VW's last pu truck Rabbit was not very impressive and I doubt I would be very impressed with an 80 MPG VW. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

"If a 90hp 4000# car can get 45 why not?"

Who would want a 90 hp 4000 lb car? Oh, they already made those, Ford Granada, Chrysler Cordoba. I don't think they got 45 (MPG????) but who really cares?
There is a certain amount of BTU in a gallon of gasoline. Given friction, weight, acceleration, deceleration requirments, aero drag and the Laws Of Thermodynamics there is no way to produce a safe, 4000 lb car with airconditioning that can carry a USEFULL load and get 300 MPG. The best engines today barely make 30% efficiency with the majority of the heat going out the exhaust pipe. So it gets 15 MPG--OK---if it were 100% efficient that would be about 75 MPG. So, in order to get a 300 MPG car it would have to be close to 400% efficient---OH--I get it--perpetual motion /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif. As you can see, even simple investigation reveals the impossibility of such a thing. There is no 300 MPG carburator and if there was the EPA would not let you use it I figure. Yep, the oil companies had those guys knocked off /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif and it was a 500MPG carburator--oops---done let it slip, the oil police will probably visit me--oh no. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif. Do people really believe all that stuff---now really--come on now. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif.
I once taught high school science, previous to that I wondered where people get such notions, now I know, they slept throught, math, science and composition. Me, not being PC, felt free to hand out lot's of F grades. I hope that it scared them emotionally forever. J

 

[NY_Yankees_Fan]

</font><font color="blueclass=small">( "VW does have a car capable of 80+ mpg "
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I only asked a question hoping to get some feedback on changing the type of oil in my Kubota TRACTOR /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif, but as far as I know I did not ask about the above. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( My question is would you then increase the oil change frequency to say 100 or 150, 200 hours? Would you change the filter at 50 hours and then top off with synthetic to that magic number? Or change the oil and filter at 150 or 200 hours. )</font>

Anyone want to answer this question?? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Hydraman]

I would continue with the recommended interval by the tractor mfgr.

 

[Docsknotinn]

Tom, My previous comments on the cost of synthetic Rotella were based on oil changes in my truck. For a few bucks more Ibelive Delvac 1 is a superior product in my truck. I do currently use Rotella synthetyic in my tractor but ANY synthetic I believe will offer some improvement in wear. This is critical only if you plan to keep your machine to the end of your days. If you plan to trade up or sell etc you will get no more for your money than peace of mind which is at least for me, enough. I personally would NOT extend the hours by useing synthetic and I most definately would never change the oil with out the filter or vice versa no matter what type /brand/hours on the oil. To further complicate this for you Rotella is not a true synthetic buy a highly refined oil. Its a GREAT product for the $$$ but honestly any of the premium oils will do well for you if you do your part. Another factor is how long in time for you between oil changes. Even if your well with in your hour range oil filters (all) degrade just from setting with oil in them. Dont get sucked into the cost justification of synthetic based on hypothetical extended oil drains and sharp penciled saveings. Change oil and filters at your manuals specs and simply decide if the synthetic gives you more peace of mind for the buck. Keep it simple /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Dave

 

[Egon]

In reply to your first post.

Change oil and filter at 100 hours with the synthetic of choice and install a block heater. Your tractor will thank you greatly. Exspecially for the block heater.

Egon