R4's are USELESS!

[john_bud]

I just absolutely FEAR chains, because I saw my buddy throw a chain off of an ATV and it trashed the Plastics, brakes, and anything it hit. I know the tractor is slower, but I just hate the though of a chain hooking something and ripping the heck out of the nice tractor. That and I really hate even installing chains. Its just a pain to install then really staright and tight......anyone can just throw them on and have them flop around. I guess I should just get the R1's and go from there because the R1's on the 2210 were MEAN tires. They dug into anything and never filled with mud.
All the mowing I plan on doing is kinda rough cutting, so if they do leave a small print OH WELL. Is it realistic to just change the rear tires to bar tires, or is that going to throw off the Transmission ration because of a slight height change?
thanks guys!

There was a great thread a while back that showed a guy putting on chains. He was in northern Europe IIRC. He laid the chains on the ground directly behind the tractor, outside facing up and tied them to the wheel. Rope thru the wheel and tied to the first cross chain. Then he slowly drove straight ahead, the chains were pulled up and onto the tires. Then when they met, the linked them up. It's best to do this with the air pressure at about 1/2 of rated capacity, then when the chains are on and as tight as you can get them, air up all the way.

Don't fear chains, they are a tool that you need to learn how to use.
jb

 

[NewToy]

Chains are definitley the way to traction. I put a set on a Cub I had with turf tires. They really improved the traction dramatically and I never had a problem keeping them on.

John

 

[rutwad]

I haven't spent time to read this thread, but this reply is based on it's title. But I agree R4's suck! We have a Farmall H that I have spent many hours on bushhogging. I've had it in wet places and even had it stuck, so I have a good feel for what it can and can't do. Then I was cutting with a Kubota L4610 4wd with R4's. With the rear diff. locked and 4WD engaged, it would not go where the Farmall would, and it doesn't even have diff. lock.
If the 'bota bogs 2-3"s in wet grassy soft ground, the grips get filled with mud and it's not going anywhere. Might as well have turf tires on it.

 

[Timber]

Maybe reading the thread before you comment is in order

 

[cmhyland]

As others have said each have their own merits.

I have owned machines with ags and turfs... In snow the loaded turfs are far and away the superior tire. And that is in up to 2 feet of snow. Wet grass the turf is superior...

In mud or in the woods the ags are outstanding.

The R4 commercials are in between.... They will outlast either of the others if your running on hard surfaces alot...

Regards,
Chris

 

[SPYDERLK]

As others have said each have their own merits.

I have owned machines with ags and turfs... In snow the loaded turfs are far and away the superior tire. And that is in up to 2 feet of snow. Wet grass the turf is superior...

In mud or in the woods the ags are outstanding.

The R4 commercials are in between.... They will outlast either of the others if your running on hard surfaces alot...

Regards,
Chris

I guess I need you to define superior.
larry

 

[Deadman]

Called the dealer today and they said that there really isn't any options for the 2520, because JD only offers them in TURF, and R4. I'm sure there is an aftermarket BAR style tire that would fit, but then I'd need to swap the fronts also so the driveline doesn't bind.
I think I'll just keep the R4's and know they're useless and expect less out of the tractor in general. They just don't impress me 1 bit, and sorry if I offended some of you who like R4's. They're just not the right tire for ME!

 

[Hard]

Called the dealer today and they said that there really isn't any options for the 2520, because JD only offers them in TURF, and R4. I'm sure there is an aftermarket BAR style tire that would fit, but then I'd need to swap the fronts also so the driveline doesn't bind.
I think I'll just keep the R4's and know they're useless and expect less out of the tractor in general. They just don't impress me 1 bit, and sorry if I offended some of you who like R4's. They're just not the right tire for ME!

Deadman...don't expect less from your tractor. I just put on the rear set of chains on my 2320 (they came in today, I ordered them last week). I already had the fronts. The chains make a world of difference, even on all the ice I have now. The chains were easy to put on and tighten up. Go get a set, you won't be sorry you did.

 

[Deadman]

Where'd u get them, and what'd they cost? rears....

 

[cmhyland]

Larry,
Superior... As in better than the others....

I live in northeastern Ct... We get more snow than most parts of the state, some years topping 160 inches. I plow about 8 driveways for neighbors, some 800 to 900 feet long. I have plowed snowstorms of over 2 feet of heavy wet snow.

I have never gotten stuck, I have never lost traction to where dropping a range wouldn't get me going again. I don't own chains because I have never needed them. I see some neighbors out with their machines with ags spinning away. I have pulled stuck machines with ags out for neighbors. On a hard surface the ag tire just puts too little rubber to the road to be effective. Also the rubber compound is soo hard in the winter they
have even less grab on cold hard surfaces...

That is how I define superior.

Regards,
Chris