Rear End Loader?

[RayCo]

I came across this page last night and found it, I don't know, interesting I guess. Does such an item exist? Is it useful? I can't really see this succeeding in reality.

Three-point hitch loader - Patent 6663338

However, front end loaders are generally dedicated to a tractor. That is, it is not very easy to connect and disconnect a front end loader from a tractor. Therefore, one will find that, as a general rule, front end loaders remain mounted to a tractor for relatively long periods of time. This, of course, means that the tractor is tied up and not useful with other implements.

I can't think of any implements that I'd need to take my loader off in order to use. I guess a plow in the winter or a snowblower, but I have zero of these.

 

[Ridgewalker]

A rear end loader? I think that option is only avialable in CA.

 

[Lunk]

I've seen these before. Limited lift heght, more of a "load and carry" unit.

Cannot for the life of me remember make/model, etc...

 

[MReeb]

Definitely a limited us item. Might be better off adapting a rear scoop bucket into a loader. If you're set on a rear end loader, Ford has been building bidirectional tractors for that purpose for years.

New Holland North America: Products

Scroll down to the bottom for a rear end loader.

 

[pclausen]

However, front end loaders are generally dedicated to a tractor. That is, it is not very easy to connect and disconnect a front end loader from a tractor.

I don't know about that. I generally always take the 460 FEL off my JD4700 when I mow or bush hog. It takes maybe 3 minutes tops and makes for a much more pleasant experience not having that loader hanging off the front end.

1. Lower bucket all the way and pull lever on loader from drivers seat
2. "Raise" bucket which will pull the entire loader up and away from the tractor
3. Shut off engine and release any pressure by moving the controller in all directions
4. Disconnect the 4 hydraulic hoses
5. Start tractor and back away

It takes more time to add the 8 weights on the front bumper afterwards.

 

[John861]

There was a Ford/Dearborn rear loader back in the 8N era. It is convenient for older tractors that were not designed for front loader attachment.

Here's link to an old ad for the Dearborn one:
Re: Rear end bucket loader

 

[Donman]

Here are some pics that I don't know where they came from (UK I think)but they show some 3 pt buckets.

 

[schmism]

NH has one (pictured) but thats because its on the TV series tractor which has a rotational cockpit. you can swing the entire thing around and "backward" now becomes forward. with 3 pt hitches at both ends of the tractor.

 

[radman1]

This company makes them for larger tractors. In the past were much more common but I don't see them much any more except on farms sales.

Gnuse Mfg. Inc.

They can lift a lot of weight since mounted on a 3 point.

 

[RayCo]

Interesting info and pictures!

I could see some use for it my own personal needs during snow removal season, perhaps. A plow on the front coupled with a mechanism for still doing some scooping could possibly be helpful.

 

[Rara Avis]

Ag Krane

 

[RedDirt]

I built this rear bucket for my Wards Garden tractor. Reason for going to rear mount was mostly expense and simplicity. Front loader would have been more work and steel for an awkward frame mounting system. And I would have had to add secondary hydraulic system. I figured a front loader would have cost $1300 - $1500 to build. I have about $450 in the rear loader.

The rear blade is raised by one cylinder powered by the HST. I put quick couplers on the existing spool valve that enabled me to switch from the little existing implement raise/lower cylinder to the rear bucket. The rear loader frame was attached to a modified sleeve hitch bar (2 point attachment to rear axle) and a homemade adjustable top link. The bucket is powered up and down hydraulically and manually dumped via the go-kart disc brake which is activated with truck emergency brake cable connected to an over-center lever.



Overall I was pleased with the outcome and operation but none-the-less the unit has its limitations.

Without powered curl, normal loader operation was modified and a bit cumbersome. I'd have to push/scrape into the pile, go forward, push the bucket flat on the ground, continue to go forward and rock the bucket back (curled) to place the load to the rear of the bucket so I could clear the front portion of the bucket for more material.

Capacity was an issue. The rear loader worked great for turning compost piles, moving leaves and other light to moderate loads. I could pick up a full bucket of soil but the top link was attached to the back of the HST and heavy loads would rotate the HST in its mounts.

Neck strain was the other issue. It takes a lot of looking over the shoulder to operate and this becomes very tiresome after a couple of hours.

The latter was the final straw. The operation shortcoming was awkward but accetable after some practice and the top link attachment could have been modified, but the constant head tweak is the rear loaders biggest downfall.

In the end I'm glad I built it. I solved all the problems by finally breaking down and buying a BX23 loader/backhoe. Now I have two tractors!

 

[scuvnut]

Two tractors are better than one!

Kudos to your building efforts and congrats on the new tractor. Really appreciate you sharing the pics.

 

[SkogenMe]

I came across this page last night and found it, I don't know, interesting I guess. Does such an item exist? Is it useful? I can't really see this succeeding in reality.

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There have been a few threads on this which might provide some additional info...don't know if they will come through OK
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/72077-rear-loader-2.html?highlight=3pth+loader

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/78477-bucket-loader-three-point-hitch.html

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/65134-anybody-used-rear-mount-loader.html

While they are not very common and for the most part an FEL is nicer, they can be really nice to use and can lift a lot more than a standard FEL...unless you happen to have a NH bidirectional

 

[flyingfinn]

This is an old conversation but still want to post some pictures. Because of high prices of hydraulics these rear-end loaders were widely used in Finland in the 60's, and 70's. We had several commercial makers here and rear end loaders were used even in digging. The older models had cylinder only for lifting the joint and scoop had only locking mechanism. When the lock was released the scoop was emptied, the balance of scoop swang the empty scoop back in locked position. Just put word 'takakuormaaja' or 'takakuormain' in google picture search and you get more hits. Here is some:

"Farmi" http://www.elisanet.fi/sami80.koivisto/Takakuormaaja(Farmi).JPG

"Farmi" again attached to Fordson Major. Text in picture says "Lifting capacity 700kg's and lifting height 280 cm. Farmi takakuormain -65

"Normet" http://www.uurastajan.com/mahtikuormain1.jpg

"Renki" Findit.fi - support


"Peto" (beast) Eka Peto ? MasinistiWiki

Found a video: 'Peto' in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j6V85jnJLE This model has 2000kg / 3m lifting capacity.

 

[keyser soze]

Man... I haven't seen one of those in years. And by one... I mean one. That's all I've ever seen. It was on a dealers lot in Arkansas.

 

[RayCo]

That was quite interesting. Thank you flyingfinn.