Reasons to use Super UDT

[ronjhall]

Charley
Since you live in a colder climate I'll give you some links to Super UDT discussions.
Click Here

I use Super UDT in my B2910.

I also use only the recommended trans oil in my <font color="green"> JD </font> F735. They recommend that only their HY-GARD be use in temperatures below 0 degrees.

 

[familyman]

"If you (blah blah blah) are a cheap skate..."
I don't need glasses, your words and intent are plain to all.
As to whether or not I or anyone else on this site "should be able to afford" anything at any time without due consideration for personal economy is a pompous assumption. I know it's hard, your majesty, but try not to sit in judgement of others and make accusations. This forum was designed, I thought, for us to share experiences and insights for the benefit af all. I asked if anyone else has had a similar experience with regard to the difference in performance between two products. Hopefully someone will post a good reply.

 

[familyman]

Thanks Ron. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[sneaky_pete]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ...The first, and main reason I used Kubota brand was that I was told by my dealer that if I had a failure during the warranty period and I had not used Kubota brand, my warranty would likely be void. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif That was a big enough reason. ... when it is under warranty, it is their bat and their ball; so if you want to play with them you have to abide by their rules. )</font>

Not so; your dealer is breaking a federal law and exposing himself to a potential lawsuit. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act specifically states:

“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name....” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).

So, unless your dealer provides you with UDT for free, he cannot void your warranty no matter what brand you use.

For full details, go here

Pete

 

[familyman]

Dargo, my tractor came from the factory filled with Super UDT, as was explained to me by my dealer and the manual. I'm surprised your RTV didn't also. Yes, synthetics slow down the rate of wear, which can be a bad thing for a new engine, but a manual gearbox will probably just break in more slowly. I'm still getting used to the rattling and whining my trans makes. I'm starting to think that it's the nature of the beast and full break in won't reduce it much.

 

[JoeR]

I am so curious to know if changing back to super UDT will fix the problem that I am hoping you do it soon so that I will know the results! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I too considered different brands of hyfraulic fluid, but I am glad I can learn from others before I make a decision.

Thanks for your post and it will be very interesting to know the outcome.

Joe

 

[familyman]

Hey, Joe!
As of this afternoon a new problem has cropped up. The tractor now has a small leak somewhere at the rearend. It's not serious, but it wasn't there before. I checked all the trans drain bolts and they're all dry. The drips are coming off the 4 bolts that hold the drawbar mount to the tractor, but I can't imagine oil leaking from there. It's oozing from somewhere above, and when my dealer picks it up to install the BH subframe (which I can't believe I'm still waiting for -- are you listening, BushHog?!?!?) I'll have him track it down. I hope it's covered under warranty. Keep you posted.

Charley

 

[ZackaryMac]

I know you guys aren't much interested in the older B series stuff, but in my owners manual it shows 9 different manufacturers' equivalent to UDT. Also, it doesn't even mention Super UDT. The manual was likely before the synthetic was around.

 

[v8dave]

Given the new leaks, leak down and poor performance, it looks like the replacement oil may be too thin.

I wouldn't wait until the next next regular service to replace the "mistake." I'd do it now and I'd especially do it before I took it to the dealer. The potential to increase the cost of the mistake is increasing all the while you continue to use the TSC substitute.

YMMV, but, better safe than sorry?

 

[familyman]

I was thinking along those lines, but the way BushHog is (isn't) moving it may be a while before the dealer picks it up. In my e-mail to BushHog yesterday I mentioned that I am relating the BH sub frame baloney to the readers at TBN. Let's see if it wakes them up!
I'm not sure that the oil will have any negative effects besides those mentioned -- but then I didn't think it would do what it's doing either.
A couple of months back I had posted a query as to whether or not our readership thought it would be possible to drain, filter and reinstall the Super UDT at the 50hr servicing. Most posters felt it was not a good idea, but after draining it I'm not so sure. That oil was in beautiful shape -- clean and nearly clear with almost no smell. It seems to me that the three factors effecting hydro oil are 1) oxidation (over time), 2) heat, 3) metal from internal wear. The first two should not be much of a factor for me in three months (50hrs). Which leaves the possibility of filtering to deal with #3. My grandfather had an old car in his barn (a Hudson?) that had some sort of built-in filtering pan or box which contained diatomaceous earth for filtering the oil. He said that he only changed the oil once a year because the filter box kept it sparkling clean. Of course in an engine blow-by would put gasoline and other byproducts of combustion in the oil which might not be filtered out, but blow-by is not a factor in my tractors transmission.
Just some thoughts.