Refueling effort

   / Refueling effort #81  
patrick_g said:
... There are cheap little solar powered fans designed to cool a car parked in the sun which could be adapted to ventilate a reefer when the sun shines (when it might need venting the most.)...

Pat

I'm thinking that would be a bad idea as I doubt those cheap fans are most likely not explosion proof. ;)
 
   / Refueling effort #82  
MossRoad said:
I'm thinking that would be a bad idea as I doubt those cheap fans are most likely not explosion proof. ;)

Good thought. If it is brushless I can direct it to blow into the enclosure. If it has brushes I can not use it and select one of my little brushless motors to spin a fan.

Pat
 
   / Refueling effort #83  
NY_Yankees_Fan said:
Alan,

NFPA 30 does not require the storage cabinet to be vented. My experience is most are not. However, if they are vented they must be steel pipe to the outside of the building. When I look at flammable cabinets I check that the bungs are tight in place and if not they are vented properly.


Tom, I am betting that you are from a fire safety background, as that is where your references are from.

In my experience more of a driver for Flam lockers etc. is from the OSHA side of the house, most of industry as a general statement reference the OSHA regs as "the gospel"

That said, I cannot think of a manufacturer that does not provide vent plugs, and the decision to utilize them is often left to the AHJ, which I think you and I will both agree, AHJ's do not always agree on what is "right"

That said, the entire point is Moot.

Pat is looking for a better safer way to store flammable materials around his house.

My 2 cents would be that the refrigerator sounds like a good idea.

If it were mine, some additional thoughts would be to vent it in a high low configuration so that it had a natural draft, and if I could I would put it in some form of outside building that minimized exposure to the elements. A box, a shed, an outbuilding I was not concerned of loosing etc.

I would also look to add in some form of secondary containment, or maybe the crisper trays or drawers would work? depending on the arrangement of the particular unit.

If it were mine, I would not attach any electricity too it. I just do not see the benefits outweighing the additional risks.

Pat, hope it works well for you, and hopefully it never has to be put "to the test" if you will. :D
 
   / Refueling effort #84  
If you go to a true sheet goods supplier who carries many kinds of plywoods, etc. versus a big box store, they can provide you with fire-rated plywood. It typically is treated with fire retardents. There have been issues with some of these plywoods delaminating from moisture. That was a while ago. They may have solved that problem. You can get interior or exterior rated fire resistant plywood.
 
   / Refueling effort #85  
"Any of you actual certified fire protection experts want to make a comment regarding a freezer or refrigerator used as a flammable liquids storage locker when it is placed outside away from buildings and combustible materials?"

Pat,

Outside of a building, all by itself, works for me.:D
 
   / Refueling effort #86  
Everyone can weigh in on this if they want. But, I recently built a "Gas Shed/trailer". I have a weekend trailer place where we go through quite a bit of boat gas. Since it is within the flood plane, everything must be on wheels.

I have a mobile home, and an enclosed 24' trailer. But, I didn't like keeping gas and other flamables in the 24' enclosed along with our ski gear, etc. So, I built a 4'x4' "gas shed" (think outhouse looking). The floor is expanded steel. T-111 siding with a metal roof. No electricity and TONS of ventellation.

My theory was, if it does burn, it's not attached to anything, so I'll loose everything inside of this "beauty" and the beauty itself. However, in the grand scheme of things, I can replace the shed/trailer for ~$300.00, and another $100.00 for the cans. Not a huge loss.

I realize it's not as safe as a full steel structure specifically designed for holding flamables. But, it was cheap and at an acceptible risk level.
 
   / Refueling effort #87  
Jim,

It is all about risk, and how much you can tolerate. I like your thinking and I agree with your decision. The least amount of exposure with minimal $ exposure. From an insurance underwriting point of view it is a win win! We always give that as the 1st option, storage away from everything, if it goes it goes, with minimal impact to the operation or business.
 
   / Refueling effort #88  
On a farm...All you need is a pallet to get you cans off the ground and a tarp to cover them...:D
 
   / Refueling effort #89  
I'll admit I wasn't involved in TBN when he posted, but this sounds like something Thingy could weigh in on.

And all from asking a question about not lifting a five gallon can.

Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night.
 
   / Refueling effort #90  
[QUOTE='Bota Fan]I'll admit I wasn't involved in TBN when he posted, but this sounds like something Thingy could weigh in on.

And all from asking a question about not lifting a five gallon can.

Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the world of thread drift...:D
 

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