ROPS need help

Skidmark25 · Jul 20, 2005

Danc,

I'm sure you will be happy with the foldable ROPS. I have a B7610HST with a Woods BH6500 hoe with the foldable ROPS set up and never hit my head.

I grab on to the ROPS when I jump from the front operating seat into the back on the seat for the hoe. I just step on the rear tire grab on the ROPS and swing myself into the back.

Good luck . . .

JerryG · Jul 21, 2005

Are the guts of the rear axle the same?

5acres · Jul 21, 2005

Hellos all another lurker finally in the mix. Been reading about the BX23 versus BX2230 and the question of different axles etc. From the Kubota parts book I have found the following: for the BX23 and the BX 2230 the main frame has the same part number, the transmission case has the same part number and the rear axles have the same part number. There are additional parts on the BX23 for the subframe and that also changes the rear fender brackets. Another item that has the same part number is the top link bracket, so the ROPS will probably fit between the two models . That is if you could afford to buy it.
Just thought I would research this since I have the Woods BH on my 2230 - have had much chance to use it though - work gets in the way. Fortunately I am vertically challenged (short) so with the standard ROPS on the 2230 I still have reasonable clearance.

Elis G

nykyfyr · Jul 21, 2005

I have a B2710 w/BH and rigid ROPS. I called my local dealer and he said the only reason they came out with a foldable ROPS was so you could get your rig into a garage. Said your good to go whether you have a rigid or foldable ROPS?!?!

Bird · Jul 21, 2005

( only reason they came out with a foldable ROPS was so you could get your rig into a garage )

Now I'm certainly not going to dispute what your dealer told you, but if I were you, I'd do some more checking. I thought the reason was to prevent the operator from getting crushed against the ROPS if a 3-point backhoe was used, and the unit should rise trapping the operator between the ROPS and a control lever he could not move. I can't find it now, but didn't Steve Carver post a story about a young man he knew who was killed for that reason?

LBrown59 · Jul 21, 2005

The smaller ROPS on the 2230 is the only real PITA
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It's more than a PITA .It's a downright dangerous safety risk.
Since to short a ROPS is dangerous on a B tractor it is also just as dangerous on a BX .

nykyfyr · Jul 21, 2005

That's what the dealer told me and I would think these guys know what their talking about. You know, there ARE alot of old wives tales out there.....

LBrown59 · Jul 21, 2005

( Hellos all another lurker finally in the mix. Been reading about the BX23 versus BX2230 and the question of different axles etc. From the Kubota parts book I have found the following: for the BX23 and the BX 2230 the main frame has the same part number, the transmission case has the same part number and the rear axles have the same part number. There are additional parts on the BX23 for the subframe and that also changes the rear fender brackets. Another item that has the same part number is the top link bracket, so the ROPS will probably fit between the two models . That is if you could afford to buy it.
Just thought I would research this since I have the Woods BH on my 2230 - have had much chance to use it though - work gets in the way. Fortunately I am vertically challenged (short) so with the standard ROPS on the 2230
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Elis G )
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1* Comfort is not the main issue but safety is !!!

LBrown59 · Jul 21, 2005

( I have a B2710 w/BH and rigid ROPS. I called my local dealer and he said the only reason they came out with a foldable ROPS was so you could get your rig into a garage. Said your good to go whether you have a rigid or foldable ROPS?!?! )

My dealer says just the opposite.

LBrown59 · Jul 21, 2005

( That's what the dealer told me and I would think these guys know what their talking about. )
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My Dealer says just the opposite - so much for the assumption that they know what they are talking about.

Obviously one or the other of these dealers don't know what he's talking about.

LBrown59 · Jul 21, 2005

( I have a B2710 w/BH and rigid ROPS. I called my local dealer and he said the only reason they came out with a foldable ROPS was so you could get your rig into a garage. Said your're good to go whether you have a rigid or foldable ROPS?!?! )

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If you're good to go with a short ROPS then why did the original posters dealer replace his short rops with a taller one for him free of charge.

nykyfyr · Jul 21, 2005

Beats me. Maybe some dealers make money selling things to people that people don't need.

Danc · Jul 21, 2005

If I may reply to this one,

It's clearly written in the Kubota B4672 Book that if there is less than 40 inches between the top bar of the ROPS and the oprator seat DO NOT USE THE BACKHOE.

The Rigid ROPS only gives about 32-33 inches of clearance while the foldable ROPS has about 9 inches more according to Kubota documentation.

So that is the only reason why the dealer accepted to replace the ROPS free of charge because we have laws up here in Quebec that could void the contract if the dealer sells a product that is not safe according to the manufacturer..... in other terms he had no choice.

Dan

LBrown59 · Jul 22, 2005

( Beats me. Maybe some dealers make money selling things to people that people don't need them. )

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How did the original posters dealer make money selling him something he didn't need by exchanging the fixed ROPS with a foldable one for him at no additional cost ???

LBrown59 · Jul 22, 2005

( If I may reply to this one,

It's clearly written in the Kubota B4672 Book that if there is less than 40 inches between the top bar of the ROPS and the oprator seat DO NOT USE THE BACKHOE.

The Rigid ROPS only gives about 32-33 inches of clearance while the foldable ROPS has about 9 inches more according to Kubota documentation.

So that is the only reason why the dealer accepted to replace the ROPS free of charge because we have laws up here in Quebec that could void the contract if the dealer sells a product that is not safe according to the manufacturer..... in other terms he had no choice.

Dan )
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In other words one is not good good to go with a BH on a tractor equipped with a Short ROPS ! ! !

BillG_in_TX · Jul 22, 2005

Bird,

Here's that information on BH / ROPS safety. It's on the Carver web site.

edit: and here's another instance reported in a TBN thread.

Bird · Jul 22, 2005

Thanks, Bill, I appreciate it. I tried to find it on TBN and on Carver's website and obviously didn't know what I was doing 'cause I didn't find it. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif I think that's as good an explanation as you'll find as to the reasons for the folding ROPS being required with a 3-point hitch backhoe.

nykyfyr · Jul 22, 2005

My bad, I misread the post. Dealer replaced ROPS for free -ok!

However, and I'm not trying to start something here, but comments associated with the two links are NOT from Kubota.

Bird · Jul 22, 2005

( comments associated with the two links are NOT from Kubota. )

I think you're right, but they do apply to Kubota, also. For just one example, read this page. My dealer also told me years ago that the folding ROPS is required with the 3-point backhoes.