Tires Say WHAT!!

[DT86]

Something terrible happened to me this week. I was driving near a old fence row that I had torn out and I ran over something very sharp with the rear tire. It went flat in less than two minutes and I lost almost all my fluid. The tractor has less than 150 hours on it and I think it is too big to patch from the inside. I d@mn near cried.





Free Service Tire says they CAN NOT get the exact tire, TITAN 18.4 x 30 Radial, as it is OEM size only from Titan.:confused2:
So I call my dealer and he can get the tire but I have to buy the whole wheel with the tire, not just the rim. tire + wheel assembly + shipping = $$$$$


One other tire place said something about putting it back in a mold and through some sort of magic it would be good as new?

Bad news is its muddy and no one around has a 4x4 tire service truck. Good news is that I can do without it for a couple weeks. I am in no huge hurry to get it fixed other than the fact that I'm paying for it and I want it.

Am I crazy for wanting the same brand tire put back? I think it would matter less on a high hour machine.

I guess I'm looking for any thoughts, opinions or comments here.

 

[TripleR]

No, you're not crazy, I would want the same tire on also.

I don't know if would have cried, cursed or both.

 

[leonz]

As you have 150 hours on the machine and added to that the countless hours it sat on the dealer lot after it was shipped the decision is kinda moot as you need a new R1 bar tire and have to decide if you want a Titan and new rim to mount on it. A new replacement will be identical in rolling radius and tread design the only thing different is the name of manufacturer and the load rating if you do not specify the exact load rating as the original.

The other issue is that your tire has suffered a catastropic tread failure where the tread and bias plys have been compromised at the same time and the tire is unsafe to repair or use for that matter.

if you have calcium ballast in the tire you have to get it out of there to prevent rim damage and waiting 2 weeks for a repair is not good in this case.

there is no saving this tire as the play has been destroyed due to the puncture.

 

[brin]

Something terrible happened to me this week. I was driving near a old fence row that I had torn out and I ran over something very sharp with the rear tire. It went flat in less than two minutes and I lost almost all my fluid. The tractor has less than 150 hours on it and I think it is too big to patch from the inside. I d@mn near cried.


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Free Service Tire says they CAN NOT get the exact tire, TITAN 18.4 x 30 Radial, as it is OEM size only from Titan.:confused2:
So I call my dealer and he can get the tire but I have to buy the whole wheel with the tire, not just the rim. tire + wheel assembly + shipping = $$$$$


One other tire place said something about putting it back in a mold and through some sort of magic it would be good as new?

Bad news is its muddy and no one around has a 4x4 tire service truck. Good news is that I can do without it for a couple weeks. I am in no huge hurry to get it fixed other than the fact that I'm paying for it and I want it.

Am I crazy for wanting the same brand tire put back? I think it would matter less on a high hour machine.

I guess I'm looking for any thoughts, opinions or comments here.

I would not be too quick to ignore what the other tire place told you about putting it back in a mold and making it as good as new...I had a nasty cut in one of my rear tires and I called a local tire company that fixes tractor tires and they are also re treaders...they make re tread tires...They came out and put a patch on the inside and refilled the tire and it was $100 even.... that was 2 yrs. ago and no problems at all since...I would really check out your options before giving up on that tire...Don't forget you can always patch the tire on the inside and get a tube...

 

[Thomas]

OUCH..I as well would want same tire as other.

Couple weeks down time,ummm,good time for some tractor etc. pming.

 

[Craig Clayton]

I was looking through a trucking mag some time back and there was an add for a company called Badger. They take truck tires and repair damaged holes by repair cooking a section back in.

Another thought is to buy 2 new tires for the rear that are easy to purchase just incase you find anymore spikes.

Another thought is to put in a tube and put a strong flexible section of nylon rubber inside the tire first.
This section might have to be contact cemented to the inside of the tire.

I have done something similiar in my garden tractor on the front tires.I have thorn trees and the have punched my tubless tires too many times.
I found some sections of flexible rubber and I have put these inside my front tires with the tubes in next. These pieces are almost like ballistic flack jackets to thorns.

In my rear tires I am using SLIME brand tire sealer as they are still tubeless.

Craig Clayton

 

[Don87]

I think I would be tempted try the 'repair' route first.

 

[MG1867]

Find that T post or what ever punctured the tire. I feel your pain.

 

[zzvyb6]

There is an ag line tire service here in Michigan that shows 18.4 x 30 8 ply Goodyear tires for sale. Maybe they can get you a Titan. Look up Blue Water or Leslie Tire (they are now a combined business).

 

[blueriver]

Contact Titan directly ... I believe they may have a "hazard warranty" as well they will ship the exact tire you need to the dealer of your choice.

 

[creekbend]

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[Brushhill dave]

I would replace it the most cost effective way you can, if that means a different manuf. just don't let anybody stand directly behind or in front of your tractor, shame hidden

 

[jdtractor]

Hi I my self have busted many tires bush hogging and loading (digging) with FEL.I know your feeling and I didnt cry I cussed every word in the line of swearing several twice. I also like some other comments had a friend that owned a tire shop and repaired tires (all sorts) had him repair the puncture to 1of my rear tractor tires. He said it might hold but doubted it with a repair of heavy rubber glued to the inside ,(he called it a liner) then a new tube ,fluid replacement etc.... I did just that ,well it lasted a couple yrs. then the tube worked the liner off, the tube then worked its way out etc... you know the rest. I replaced with another tire ,different design etc heavy ply, to add to the %^&&%$# the newer tire had deeper tread etc..... I went ahead and used this tractor for a few yrs after then the front (4x4) tire blew while loading dirt etc.... sharp shale dirt. I replaced different tire again , finally needed to replace all 4 after few more yrs. My point to all this is you have to decide what you want and bite the bullet sometime. The repair i seriously doubt will last ,if you work your tractor much (like most of us do), looks didnt matter to me, I finally put 4 new on because I needed them. The only advantage to running different, is the money you may save, for several working tractor hrs. Its up to you I hope this gives you some help.

Pat

 

[Robert_in_NY]

If you can take the tire off in the field block the tractor up and remove it. Have a helper and put it on a truck and haul it to a competent tire shop. They can break it down and instantly know if its able to be repaired or what your best options are. A new tire that size isn't cheap, I replaced a 16.9-30 last summer and it costs over $900 for the tire, tube, fluid transfer and a small on site fee since I had them come to the farm.

 

[DT86]

If you can take the tire off in the field block the tractor up and remove it. Have a helper and put it on a truck and haul it to a competent tire shop. They can break it down and instantly know if its able to be repaired or what your best options are. A new tire that size isn't cheap, I replaced a 16.9-30 last summer and it costs over $900 for the tire, tube, fluid transfer and a small on site fee since I had them come to the farm.

Yeah I think I'll take it off and run it to the store. The problems with that are...
(1) I have TWO wheel weights per side AND cast wheel centers!!!! (heavy)

(2)When I set my front wheels out they were so tight my air gun just laughed at me, I had to go to a friends shop with a 1" drive air gun.

(3) Its is in the middle of 40 acres of pure red clay.

$900 ready to go would be a dream, I was quoted $1100 for just the tire before they figured out they couldn't even get it.
And Kubota wants close to $2k for the whole assembly.

As I sit here I was just wondering how far I could drive the tractor through grass and mud without causing damage to the rim?? I realize this would probably eat up the tire though.

 

[smweatherman]

Ouch

Your story got me to wandering... Any insurance?? I think my KTAC covers such things.
I think your tire could be had, but it won't be cheap or easy.

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If you got the tire there must be some sort of farm service in the area equipped to accomplish a field repair. That is how they make a living.

Good luck
Wxman

 

[DT86]

Ouch

Your story got me to wandering... Any insurance?? I think my KTAC covers such things.

I too have the KTAC, after all it is financed. I'll check up on that.
Blueriver mentioned earlier field hazard warranty through Titan. I'll have to check on that also.

Any one know anything about either?? A guy who had his RTV stolen said KTAC takes something like 90 days??

 

[smweatherman]

Well, I know of KTAC covering a tire, but it wasn't a puncture only situation. It was in conjunction with other damage. Tractor was backed into implement and it damaged rear of tractor, fender and punctured tire.

So, careless and leave tractor in gear. Covered.

Accidentally run over a hidden obstacle. ???????

Good luck again.

 

[DT86]

Well you know, come to think of it that is exactly what happened. Just need to grab my 9lb hammer and adjust the fender. Just kidding. :laughing:

 

[Code54]

Is it possible to leave the center and weights on and just take the "outer rim" and tire off? Knocks the weight WAY down and the tire can be towed out with an ATV or the like on an old hood, or homemade wooden skid? Have it repaired/replaced and don't fill it so you can reinstall it semi easily in the field then fill it once you are back to your garage/shop.
I also did a REAL fast online search and .premiertire dot com shows they have a Titan R1 in a BLEM in your size? Maybe worth checking as it could save you a bundle!
If you are getting a new tire I would make sure I had nothing on the 3pt and limp it out slow and steady. There will be some weight on that tire but the side wall will hold some and the other three will have their share so rim damage should not be an issue, especially on soft dirt.