Tires Say WHAT!!

[Posm]

I would not worry if you could get the Goodyear. Titan bought Goodyear's AG tire division a couple of years ago. I would not be surprised to find the Goodyears and the Titans of the same size are made in the same molds.

 

[weldermike]

Can you get an impliment on the back, with a hydoulic lift. Just a thought to help get it home

 

[DT86]

First off, I failed to thank everyone so far for their comments and links to the various web sites. :thumbsup: I am in the process of looking into every last one of them.

Is it possible to leave the center and weights on and just take the "outer rim" and tire off?

I went out to look and that won't be a option. As you can see from this picture the nuts are on the inside of the wheel making it a nightmare to try and remove the center.

I also did a REAL fast online search and .premiertire dot com shows they have a Titan R1 in a BLEM in your size? Maybe worth checking as it could save you a bundle!

The idea of a blemished tire bothers me much much less than the idea of a different brand. After all I've been buying blem auto batteries my whole adult life with no problems what so ever. I sent them a email. Fingers crossed.


I also sent the tire guy the same four pics I posted earlier to see what he thinks about patching/tubing it OR putting back into the mold. Still waiting to hear back. (It is Sunday)

 

[weldermike]

Dt86, I wasnt really clear this morning, but if you could drive a little ways on the flat, just to get in an open area, do you have a neighbor or local farmer friend with big impliments that have something with hydoulic wheels. You would be able to put them down and be able to get ur machine home on 5 good wheels without destroying your rim. A big cultipacker, or a big disc or something. Problems arent as bad anymore once your in your driveway. Stuck far from home stinks bud, ive been there!

 

[Robert_in_NY]

When I took the rear tire off my TN to fix a NSS I didn't have the rear weights but the tire was loaded still. I used a 1/2" extension to get out to where I could get a breaker bar on it and popped the nuts without much trouble. So I believe you should be able to do it on your own without power tools.

Can the rear weights be removed fairly easily? Their not fun I know but they need to come off regardless to fix that tire unless you can get a truck with a crane there as the tire guy still needs to be able to move the tire around to work on it.

Another option to remove the rim from the cast center is to access the bolts from the rear. If you can block the rear of the tractor up and put it in neutral you can rotate the rear tire to line up the bolts to where you can reach them a little easier from the 3pt hitch area.

If I was in your situation I would try driving it. The tire won't damage the rim and at worst you mark up the tire. At least get it to where you need to access it but watch the tire so you don't roll it off the rim (of course it will be lighter then).

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Dt86, I wasnt really clear this morning, but if you could drive a little ways on the flat, just to get in an open area, do you have a neighbor or local farmer friend with big impliments that have something with hydoulic wheels. You would be able to put them down and be able to get ur machine home on 5 good wheels without destroying your rim. A big cultipacker, or a big disc or something. Problems arent as bad anymore once your in your driveway. Stuck far from home stinks bud, ive been there!

Those items won't lift the rear of the tractor off the ground. They will only add weight to the back of the tractor.

 

[wolfpack2]

To get the tractor out of the field, I would just put as many plugs as it takes to fill the hole, pump it up with a potable compressor or use a CO2 tank, and drive it out. It will still leak but should hold air long enough to get you back to the barn. We have done this a number of times to trucks when off-roading. It is a lot easier to change the tire at the trail head than out in the mud.

 

[weldermike]

Those items won't lift the rear of the tractor off the ground. They will only add weight to the back of the tractor.

I kinda figured that, but just tryin to pull a rabbit out of a hat to help the guy just get home.

 

[Willl]

Ain't no easy way out of this unless you just pull out your checkbook.

 

[tiredguy]

DT86,
Titan no longer offers a field hazard warranty on the tires, and for everyone else's FYI, Firestone still does and the only one left as far as I know.

Now for a couple of questions: do you have a neighbor with a tractor you could hire to help? In that case you could always borrow/rent a car hauler and load up the tire dealers service truck to get it to the tractor. Or a loader tractor where you could put a gas driven portable compressor in the bucket and take the tire guy out to it and they might be able to plug it well enough to get the tractor to where they can do the service needed.

Looks pretty bad but if the tire dealer could put a section repair in the tire and even though not the cure, at least you'd be back in business until it failed or a replacement tire became available. If it does hold up if I were you I'd be sure to keep it as a spare/backup in case you ran into problems in the future.

It's a gamble of course trying the section repair, but can assure you that the tire dealer won't even do it unless they're fairly certain it will hold up at least for a while and inform you upfront if they're reputable at all.
Al

 

[tiredguy]

Ain't no easy way out of this unless you just pull out your checkbook.

Unfortunate but most always true, gonna play gonna pay and hopefully the gains are always better than the losses.
Al

 

[tommu56]

I cant tell how big the hole is but I got 12-14 plugs doubled up in my BX23 rear tire from being cut by the shale it use to leak slowly after that.

Step 2 was to pump a gallon of slime in to it is fine now, I know yours are filled but I'd try it.

Rob 3RRL Sowed one of his up and put a patch (called a tire boot) over the repair than a tube in it I wouldn't hesitate to try.

tom

 

[DT86]

To answer a few questions... within 1 mile I have two friends with pallet forks and tractors or skid steers large enough to handle the tire once it's off. It's just going to be a major PITA to get the wheel weights and the cast center off with hand tools.

The wheel weights are held on by four studs each (probably carriage head) and the cast center is held on by eight carriage head bolts with the nuts on the inside of the wheel. It is gonna suck but it aint gonna fix its self.

I have a set of 1" drive sockets with a nice long cheater bar so as soon as I can rally a few friends I'll get going on it. It'll probably cost me a case of adult beverages but it will be worth it. After all the service truck is a 2 hour min at $70+ a hour and it's too muddy for him to get back there anyway.

After all that I'll haul it down to the shop to see if they can patch it or put it in a mold. If worse comes to worse the link that Code54 mentioned does list my size in a blemished condition. If its a radial will be the only question there.

 

[escavader]

Do you think you could get another tractor out there and chain up to lift ,the pressure off that tire and walk it back to the barn? We do it all the time with large industrial forklifts and bucket loaders
ALAN

 

[DT86]

Do you think you could get another tractor out there and chain up to lift ,the pressure off that tire and walk it back to the barn? We do it all the time with large industrial forklifts and bucket loaders
ALAN

I just don't know of anyone with enough iron to lift the rear of this thing, even if it was just one side.

 

[Mounted Madness]

I know your first task is to get wheel/tire off the machine. Before ordering a new tire though, I'd suggest you look at the 'repair magic' you referred to earlier.

Saw a program a while ago where repairs are done to the very costly tires used on those open pit mine trucks. It isn't a patch, it is litterly a repair that rebuilds from the inside out. The repair is vulcanized and is as strong as the original tire.

If that is what your tire repair guy is selling, I'd go for it without hesitation.

Good luck. :thumbsup:

 

[MHarryE]

Remember that whatever you do as a repair the tire will not be as strong in that area as it originally was. You can see in your picture the torn cord and there is no repair that will make the cord fuse back together. Maybe not a big thing depending on how hard you use your tractor. Radials your size don't come cheap.

 

[MHarryE]

is this the tire? Titan shows it as available

http://www.titanstore.com/info/4R3450

 

[Texas Fella]

Have you tried KTAC (you said that you might). If they will cover it, they will cover the hauling or cover a tire guy to come out and take it off, or what ever is needed (from my experiance). If they will cover it, it will cost you your $250 deductable and that is it. If you have already tried them (and said so on here) I missed it and I am sorry about bring it up again.

 

[DT86]

Have you tried KTAC (you said that you might).

Just got off the phone with them. The first question she asked was if I had axle or fender damage as a result of the same indecent. Bad news guys, KTAC will not cover just the tires unless there is other damage. It was worth a shot.

I was pleasantly surprised that the tire shop called early this morning to follow up. We talked about options and he believes a section repair is my best bet.

Friday help will be available to remove it in the field. Three guys, 1" drive sockets w/cheater bar and a 115hp CaseIH with pallet forks. Wish us luck. Pics to follow.