JLD
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I agree, accident waiting to happen. I would not get anywhere near that thing.
Screw Type Log Splitter
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ZJ_HR
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Billy,
What kind of tractor do you have, and how big log do you want to split?
People here use 65 HP engine tractors to split logs 2 ft diameter. If log (stump side, for example) come to end of worm, and was not splitted, tractor sometimes stop (stuck). Recommended U-joint cross on PTO shaft is dia 32 mm or bigger (like for 80" tiller, for example). So, if you have small compact tractor, FORGET it. Look for hydraulic one. Safer, and you wil not broke pto on your tractor.
Two of neighbours have these splitters, and on both splitters input splined pto shafts are damaged (torsioned).
If you want, I can make you a photo.
ZJ
What kind of tractor do you have, and how big log do you want to split?
People here use 65 HP engine tractors to split logs 2 ft diameter. If log (stump side, for example) come to end of worm, and was not splitted, tractor sometimes stop (stuck). Recommended U-joint cross on PTO shaft is dia 32 mm or bigger (like for 80" tiller, for example). So, if you have small compact tractor, FORGET it. Look for hydraulic one. Safer, and you wil not broke pto on your tractor.
Two of neighbours have these splitters, and on both splitters input splined pto shafts are damaged (torsioned).
If you want, I can make you a photo.
ZJ
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I won't say they are safe - neither is the chainsaw tho.
They flat out split a lot of wood.
I have run mine on a 15hp Kubota, 1720 NH, & old 960 ~50hp Ford. I always run at idle, and it will kill off the engine if it bites off more than it can chew. It splits wood plenty fast, no reason to run faster, & no need for big hp.
I have a BarkBuster. They use a pto shaft & run off the pto. The hyd setup with control on a hyd orbit motor someone mentioned is interesting, you could back it out & such. Interesting.
--->Paul
They flat out split a lot of wood.
I have run mine on a 15hp Kubota, 1720 NH, & old 960 ~50hp Ford. I always run at idle, and it will kill off the engine if it bites off more than it can chew. It splits wood plenty fast, no reason to run faster, & no need for big hp.
I have a BarkBuster. They use a pto shaft & run off the pto. The hyd setup with control on a hyd orbit motor someone mentioned is interesting, you could back it out & such. Interesting.
--->Paul
ZJ_HR
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Paul,
Sorry for my bad English. I want to say that hydraulic push type log splitter is much safer than screw type.
People here use 99% screw type splitters, because they are CHEAP and fast.
A neighbor has 65HP Zetor, and when they try to split knoty oak log, about 25" or bigger, engine stops , even if they run engine at 1500 rpm (as him usually do). His splitter has torsioned shaft!!! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Not so big problem for small logs, up to 12" dia, as you said.
BTW, I have drawings for manufacture of screw type splitter, so if somebody is interested, drop me a message.
ZJ
Sorry for my bad English. I want to say that hydraulic push type log splitter is much safer than screw type.
People here use 99% screw type splitters, because they are CHEAP and fast.
A neighbor has 65HP Zetor, and when they try to split knoty oak log, about 25" or bigger, engine stops , even if they run engine at 1500 rpm (as him usually do). His splitter has torsioned shaft!!! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Not so big problem for small logs, up to 12" dia, as you said.
BTW, I have drawings for manufacture of screw type splitter, so if somebody is interested, drop me a message.
ZJ
MikeIA
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A recent Farm Show magazine had one of these that someone had converted to hydraulic drive and mounted on the quick-tach bracket of his skid loader forks. I think it was on a hinge, so that the forks could be rotated into position to stop the log from spinning. He could back it out if he bit off more than it would chew by reversing the hydraulic motor. I think it also mentioned screwing the splitter in part way, then lifting the log to move it around.
edv
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Unless I am completely wrong....the screw splitter was introduced in the late 70's....shortly thereafter it was removed from the market....SUPER DANGEROUS....not sure...I imagine it did not take long for someone to get hurt or killed by this attachment...and surely NO insurance company would even consider writing liability insurance on this attachment...My advice buy your wood or buy a hydraulic splitter built by a reputable manufacturer...
edv
edv
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have a BarkBuster. They use a pto shaft ...)</font>
Paul, I was curious about the BarkBuster, so I did a search to see it...one of the first things I saw was a link to its recall .
Be Safe!
Sam
Paul, I was curious about the BarkBuster, so I did a search to see it...one of the first things I saw was a link to its recall .
Be Safe!
Sam
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The lack of kill switch or shut off seems to be the biggest trouble.
I can see the one mounted on the quick tach attacking a big pile of firewood jabbing the spinning spike into it while the operator lets of heinous noises! Imagine the workover you could do to some ones car?
Ken
I can see the one mounted on the quick tach attacking a big pile of firewood jabbing the spinning spike into it while the operator lets of heinous noises! Imagine the workover you could do to some ones car?
Ken
MikefromMI
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When I was a kid I got hung up in one. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
The process gets you in the habit of setting the end of the log over the bar so you know it won't spin. But as the tip gets worn over time, you have to push the log harder to get it started. When I was pressing a log in I didn't realize that my knee wasn't right behind the cone. It was closer to the bar. At the same time it had gripped and started to split. Before I took the pressure off my knee the log twisted as it was splitting which brought the log inside the bar and wedged my leg in there hard enough to lift a side of the 9N off the ground a good inch and stall it. If the log wouldn't have been split as far as it was I would have never got out. Fortuantly I had a sledge setting there and was able to free myself with a couple swats. My mom made dad get rid of it the next day........ But I feel they work great other than the feed. Take the human out of that and I think there would be different attitudes. I'd still rather use a ram into the spinning cone than a fixed wedge. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Sorry so long. Brought up a forgotten memory....
The process gets you in the habit of setting the end of the log over the bar so you know it won't spin. But as the tip gets worn over time, you have to push the log harder to get it started. When I was pressing a log in I didn't realize that my knee wasn't right behind the cone. It was closer to the bar. At the same time it had gripped and started to split. Before I took the pressure off my knee the log twisted as it was splitting which brought the log inside the bar and wedged my leg in there hard enough to lift a side of the 9N off the ground a good inch and stall it. If the log wouldn't have been split as far as it was I would have never got out. Fortuantly I had a sledge setting there and was able to free myself with a couple swats. My mom made dad get rid of it the next day........ But I feel they work great other than the feed. Take the human out of that and I think there would be different attitudes. I'd still rather use a ram into the spinning cone than a fixed wedge. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Sorry so long. Brought up a forgotten memory....
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Anybody had close calls working a hydraulic splitter? I've learned not to let someone else operate the controls. My mother is a bit ambitious, about 10 years ago she nearly took my hand off!
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Thanks for the link, I was wondering who made it. Got it at an auction sale a few years ago, there were 5 or so bidders interested in it to start.
I've always felt the chain saw was the most dangerous part of wood making. Helped dad with the circle saw (buzz saw) mounted on the tractor for 15 years or so - didn't like that too well either. A friend of mine had to go to the emergency room to have a piece of metal removed from his chest right over his heart - came of a wedge when he was using a maul & wedges to split wood. My unkle came real close to getting his hand in a typical hyd splitter.
Guess it's real hard to make any of it safe.
Most dangerous thing I do is feed cows 2 times a day, every day. Machines are more predictable. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
--->Paul
I've always felt the chain saw was the most dangerous part of wood making. Helped dad with the circle saw (buzz saw) mounted on the tractor for 15 years or so - didn't like that too well either. A friend of mine had to go to the emergency room to have a piece of metal removed from his chest right over his heart - came of a wedge when he was using a maul & wedges to split wood. My unkle came real close to getting his hand in a typical hyd splitter.
Guess it's real hard to make any of it safe.
Most dangerous thing I do is feed cows 2 times a day, every day. Machines are more predictable. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
--->Paul
Deerlope
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Nothing that we do around machinery is 100% safe. That is why everyone should use extra caution. There have been so many accidents around PTO shafts that now they have so many guards and shields that it most near impossible to grease them. But can be done.
mrcaptainbob
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My son and I were splittin' wood one day. I smacked the wedge and a piece off the wedge stabbed the boy in the chest. Fortuneatly it stopped on a rib. I still get the chills thinkin' of that. He says he can still remember the heat from that shard from fourteen years ago. I worked with a guy who got smacked by a tree that slid back from the stump and caught him and paralyzed him from midback down. The easiest way out....gas pipe to the furnace. I guess all the things it takes to change a tree to firewood/mulch are extremely dangerous.
Hello Billyboy, I would like to take you up on that screw log splitter offer. Please let me know if you still have it. Thanks, rsaw sawyer5@inteliport.com
CTyler
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Have to be hy on crack to use one...LOL!!!
littlebittylou
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Do you still have this stickler, I would be happy to pay the shipping costs if you would ship it to me
thank you for your time
Mike Erskine
thank you for your time
Mike Erskine
smokinhart
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You know they said the same thing about the Wright brothers and Henry Ford..."that thing will get you killed". Anybody remember flat belt pulleys and the burr mills, horse drawn equipment and Oh 70 mph freeways? Life is fragile use it with care whatever you do.
