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[4570Man]

Keep in mind that both brands sell impacts in a variety of different drive sizes. The important part is that they all have models with a variety of torque in the same drive size.

I have a Dewalt impact because everything else I have is dewalt. The dewalt is strong enough for lug nuts and such but dewalt doesn’t make any impact as strong as what Milwaukee offers.

 

[dodge man]

Did anyone see the Colorado truck driver that crashed killing 4 and got sentenced to 110 years in prison? I personally think he deserves it but a lot of people feel differently. He’ll probably get out in 10 years or less anyway.

To me it seems like a harsh sentence for what sounds like an accident. Like someone else said, lots of information I don’t have. For example if he was an independent truck driver and it was his rig and he skipped maintenance on the brakes?

 

[4570Man]

To me it seems like a harsh sentence for what sounds like an accident. Like someone else said, lots of information I don’t have. For example if he was an independent truck driver and it was his rig and he skipped maintenance on the brakes?

It was a hired driver. Apparently the trailer didn’t have working brakes. Apparently he knew that and chose to keep going. But that probably wouldn’t have made all the difference. Service brakes aren’t made to hold grades. He failed at downshifting and using the exhaust brake. They’d have likely over heated and failed anyway with no assistance from the engine. He also failed at using multiple runaway truck ramps.

 

[LD48750]

It was a hired driver. Apparently the trailer didn’t have working brakes. Apparently he knew that and chose to keep going. But that probably wouldn’t have made all the difference. Service brakes aren’t made to hold grades. He failed at downshifting and using the exhaust brake. They’d have likely over heated and failed anyway with no assistance from the engine. He also failed at using multiple runaway truck ramps.

You're sure the vehicle HAD an exhaust brake?

 

[4570Man]

You're sure the vehicle HAD an exhaust brake?

I don’t know for sure it did but it was admitted in court that the truck was in neutral. That hill was only 6 percent which that’s a pretty good hill but not half what other hills out there are. It was also only a 45 zone. The truck wouldn’t have any problems holding 6 percent at 45 mph.

 

[California]

New hire. He said this was his first time driving in the mountains.

 

[KennyG]

The driver made multiple decisions that resulted in the accident, independent of the conditions. The reason this has become so well publicized is the perception that the penalty of 110 years is excessive. For reasons I don't understand it seems that state law dictated this sentence. The only way to reduce it would be for the Governor to grant clemency. I don't think there is any great controversy as to whether the driver was at fault, only the appropriateness of the penalty.

 

[4570Man]

The driver made multiple decisions that resulted in the accident, independent of the conditions. The reason this has become so well publicized is the perception that the penalty of 110 years is excessive. For reasons I don't understand it seems that state law dictated this sentence. The only way to reduce it would be for the Governor to grant clemency. I don't think there is any great controversy as to whether the driver was at fault, only the appropriateness of the penalty.

There’s actually a lot of people supporting his release claiming “his brakes failed”. They don’t understand that unlike light vehicle brakes trucks brakes can’t just suddenly fail. Overheating them is the only possibility of failure and that’s that’s the direct result of driver negligence.

 

[California]

For reasons I don't understand it seems that state law dictated this sentence. The only way to reduce it would be for the Governor to grant clemency. I don't think there is any great controversy as to whether the driver was at fault, only the appropriateness of the penalty.

I looked at a couple of local news articles. There seem to be a various legal issues.

1. He was offered a plea deal and refused it so he was at risk of maximum sentence.

2. A decade or so ago the voters of Colorado wanted to go Hard On Crime so the legislature enacted some harsh penalties plus prevented terms for various offenses being served concurrently, that have to be sequential. (Therefor the 110 years). And judges were prevented from deviating (Soft On Crime!) from the standard sentences in the new laws.

3. He seems to have been charged with every relevant offense for each of the four victims, a prosecutorial choice.

4. One opinion I saw said the prosecutor took a hard line and said if he didn't want to plea deal then we'll convict him of everything we can think of as an example to others who may refuse to plea deal. (Unverified).

 

[4570Man]

I looked at a couple of local news articles. There seem to be a various legal issues.

1. He was offered a plea deal and refused it so he was at risk of maximum sentence.

2. A decade or so ago the voters of Colorado wanted to go Hard On Crime so the legislature enacted some harsh penalties plus prevented terms for various offenses being served concurrently, that have to be sequential. (Therefor the 110 years).

3. He seems to have been charged with every relevant offense for each of the four victims, a prosecutorial choice.

4. One opinion I saw said the prosecutor took a hard line and said if he didn't want to plea deal then we'll convict him of everything we can think of as an example to others who may refuse to plea deal. (Unverified).

What terms did the plea deal offer?

 

[California]

What terms did the plea deal offer?

I don't know. I didn't see anything about that in the local articles.

 

[LD48750]

There’s actually a lot of people supporting his release claiming “his brakes failed”. They don’t understand that unlike light vehicle brakes trucks brakes can’t just suddenly fail. Overheating them is the only possibility of failure and that’s that’s the direct result of driver negligence.

This was just a regular 1 ton pick up, not a semi.
Basically the same brakes as any passenger car or other pick up truck just a little bigger then some.

 

[groundcover]

That wasn't an accident , it was wreck, predictable and preventable.

 

[LD48750]

That wasn't an accident , it was wreck, predictable and preventable.

So... you're saying he INTENTIONALLY set out to kill people that morning?

 

[4570Man]

This was just a regular 1 ton pick up, not a semi.
Basically the same brakes as any passenger car or other pick up truck just a little bigger then some.

Different wreak. There was the guy pulling the boat with the 1 ton but this guy that got 110 years was hauling lumber on a semi. The boat guy was equally negligent and deserves prison too.

 

[LD48750]

Different wreak. There was the guy pulling the boat with the 1 ton but this guy that got 110 years was hauling lumber on a semi. The boat guy was equally negligent and deserves prison too.

oops sorry missed that one.

 

[4570Man]

So... you're saying he INTENTIONALLY set out to kill people that morning?

No but he made so many bad decisions leading up to it that he just as well have. Do you think someone texting and driving or driving under the influence intends on killing anyone either?

 

[Chilliwack Murray]

Here’s a local one from today. Must be bottle recycling day….

 

[ning]

That wasn't an accident , it was wreck, predictable and preventable.

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[3 Horse Ranch]

Overheating them is the only possibility of failure and that’s that’s the direct result of driver negligence.

There is also the possibility of a service brake line failure, but that would still allow the driver the option of pulling the red and yellow knobs or taking a runaway ramp. But that wasn't the case here. In reality it seems this guy either had inadequate training. You would think they would at least cover mountain driving in theory if they couldn't do it in practice.