So I got a good deal on some trusses...
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Scozz
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<font color="blue"> For a detached garage, a slab with footers below the frost line is overkill and an un-necessary expense IMO. And, since we just bot the new house and the wallet is kinda light, well, the monolithic slab keeps me in budget too. The materials cost savings is significant. In case you're not familiar with monolithic slab construction, I've attached a cross section similar to what I am doing... </font>
<font color="black">In my area of NY you cannot build anything larger than a shed without footings below the frost line (42").
Sure makes your life a lot easier having it float...Scozz </font>
<font color="black">In my area of NY you cannot build anything larger than a shed without footings below the frost line (42").
Sure makes your life a lot easier having it float...Scozz </font>
thcri
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Aww, Looks like a Carrier Heat Pump. I guess being from New York, Carrier is popular out there??
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Onthesauk
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The one thing I regret on my garage was no in-floor drain. We get pretty good snow and I end up leaving the truck out to avoid all the snow melt in the shop, all that slush stuck up in the wheel wells.
An approved slab is fine for anything less than 1,000 square feet around here; larger does require full footers. I was careful to take this into account when scrounging for trusses. Larger trusses would have been nice but still, 24' x 34' = 816sf which is not so bad for what I need. Besides, beggars can't be choosy and the price was right! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
murf - I do see quite a few of them around but don't hear much about quality one way or the other? I guess that's good. One thig for sure, the AC has been working overtime for the past week. I believe it is about 4 y.o. and I think 12.8 Seer. Does that sound about right? Anyways, our home just sold had the infamous York 'cracked heat exchanger vestibule'. The little crack in the photo cost me $2,000+! Grrr...
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EddieWalker
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Hopefully this trench angle won't cause problems with the conduit bends. I was going to lay a direct burial service line plus one 1" Schedule 40 PVC conduit for a telephone, cable TV, Cat 5 and alarm wire bundle and another 1-1/2" Schedule 40 PVC conduit for future use. What am I missing? )</font>
Two things I'd add are a copper line for air. Not sure where your compressor is gonna be, but having it available in both locations is always nice. Later on, I'd add an air line outside the buiding for airing up tires, greasing the tractor and operating your air tools. It's just nice not haveing to deal with the inside line when you have an outside one.
The other thing I'd be sure to run is water. You mentioned not being able to drain it, which isn't a big deal. If you have to be inspected, just run water for a couple of spickets. I like to have one in front, then on both sides. It wont cost much, and you will never regret having them.
After the inspection you can put in a workshop sink with cold water only and drain it into the plants.
The project is coming along nicely!!!!!
Eddie
Two things I'd add are a copper line for air. Not sure where your compressor is gonna be, but having it available in both locations is always nice. Later on, I'd add an air line outside the buiding for airing up tires, greasing the tractor and operating your air tools. It's just nice not haveing to deal with the inside line when you have an outside one.
The other thing I'd be sure to run is water. You mentioned not being able to drain it, which isn't a big deal. If you have to be inspected, just run water for a couple of spickets. I like to have one in front, then on both sides. It wont cost much, and you will never regret having them.
After the inspection you can put in a workshop sink with cold water only and drain it into the plants.
The project is coming along nicely!!!!!
Eddie
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( an air line outside the buiding for airing up tires )</font>
I think that's a good idea, although instead of that, I put one of my outlets inside, but right beside the overhead door.
I think that's a good idea, although instead of that, I put one of my outlets inside, but right beside the overhead door.
Hello Eddie - you are really moving along on your latest project too, love the beams!
I do want water out there and can live with cold only for now. There's an outside hose bib about 15' from the house end of the trench, so I'm leaning towards the K.I.S.S. solution, i.e., jogging the poly supply line from the trench over to the bib and making up some connections and a short bib-to-poly transition hose like another TBN'r mentioned in a previous thread. Unhooked, I'm sure I could blow the line backwards from the shop to the house connection for winter. I am a bit leary of leaks or a failed connection/hose with this approach but I don't want to trench below the frost line or go thru the house foundation. So, it just doesn't get any cheap and easier than that I guess. Of course, this would be for an external hose spigot at the shop. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Also, I have already convinced myself that air piping - pvc, copper or aluminum, let the debate continue - for tools, etc., is going to happen. I've gotten some good info and design ideas from http://www.garage-pak.com. Prolly just plug my 30gal portable into a wall mounted filter/lubicator and hard pipe from there for now. Outlets all over and a suspended 25' hose reel sounds perfect! I suppose if I need air at the house I could just unplug and wheel it over. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Thanks and keep up the good work.
I do want water out there and can live with cold only for now. There's an outside hose bib about 15' from the house end of the trench, so I'm leaning towards the K.I.S.S. solution, i.e., jogging the poly supply line from the trench over to the bib and making up some connections and a short bib-to-poly transition hose like another TBN'r mentioned in a previous thread. Unhooked, I'm sure I could blow the line backwards from the shop to the house connection for winter. I am a bit leary of leaks or a failed connection/hose with this approach but I don't want to trench below the frost line or go thru the house foundation. So, it just doesn't get any cheap and easier than that I guess. Of course, this would be for an external hose spigot at the shop. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Also, I have already convinced myself that air piping - pvc, copper or aluminum, let the debate continue - for tools, etc., is going to happen. I've gotten some good info and design ideas from http://www.garage-pak.com. Prolly just plug my 30gal portable into a wall mounted filter/lubicator and hard pipe from there for now. Outlets all over and a suspended 25' hose reel sounds perfect! I suppose if I need air at the house I could just unplug and wheel it over. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Thanks and keep up the good work.
