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U Of Texas Professor Says Mass Death Is Imminent
Looks like a fringe conspiracy theory.
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U Of Texas Professor Says Mass Death Is Imminent
Looks like a fringe conspiracy theory.
Loren
DarkBlack
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Agree. Why would you listen to people who say "We underestimated the speed of melting" "It's warming faster than we predicted" etc..
That's proof they were just recently WRONG. Why should you believe them now? That would be illogical.
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Various conspiracy stories along the general lines of "agenda 21 depopulation" when put into a search engine.
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dave1949
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Over population is an insidious problem. While it is possible for the human population to crash for one reason or another, the reality is as the population grows we slowly acquiesce to a lower quality of life. Just about any issue that impacts the way we live is related to population pressures.
With the exception of space dust and solar energy input, the earth is a closed system. It is physically impossible for 7 going on 9 billion people to live in the same way--with the same space and resources--that 2 or 3 billion did in the past. Even if the mode of living is not worse, it will still be different by necessity. If we liked what we had, then different could well be considered worse.
Agricultural and food production methods are driven by population food demand. The result is we can feed 7 billion people most of the time, but only with industrial food glop enabled by genetic modification. Eating a little Roundup with every bite of corn-based food is not a quality of life improvement. Nor is a growing body of resistant bacteria resulting from "sub-therapeutic" antibiotic doses needed for animals to survive CAFO conditions.
The so-called nanny state is driven by population. Compared to a global population of 2 or 3 billion, it isn't possible for the combinations and permutations of 7 billion peoples' activities to occur within the same physical size constraints without higher levels of and more rigid organization.
Immigration pressures and the resulting disagreements and costs are driven to some extent by population growth.
The expanding raw resources and their processing needed by seven billion people, and the resultant waste stream, force more attention to be paid to environmental factors such as air and water. Two or three billion people can live pretty slovenly and get away with it, but seven billion cannot. We bump into the earth's capacity limits to deal with the impacts.
Personally, I think humans are a long ways from controlling their own numbers so I predict an ever-declining quality of life--as measured by our past. What is insidious about that is, the children born in the slums of the growing mega-cities of the sub-tropics don't know anything about that past, nor does it exist in their frame of reference. You can't lose nor worry about what you never had.
With the exception of space dust and solar energy input, the earth is a closed system. It is physically impossible for 7 going on 9 billion people to live in the same way--with the same space and resources--that 2 or 3 billion did in the past. Even if the mode of living is not worse, it will still be different by necessity. If we liked what we had, then different could well be considered worse.
Agricultural and food production methods are driven by population food demand. The result is we can feed 7 billion people most of the time, but only with industrial food glop enabled by genetic modification. Eating a little Roundup with every bite of corn-based food is not a quality of life improvement. Nor is a growing body of resistant bacteria resulting from "sub-therapeutic" antibiotic doses needed for animals to survive CAFO conditions.
The so-called nanny state is driven by population. Compared to a global population of 2 or 3 billion, it isn't possible for the combinations and permutations of 7 billion peoples' activities to occur within the same physical size constraints without higher levels of and more rigid organization.
Immigration pressures and the resulting disagreements and costs are driven to some extent by population growth.
The expanding raw resources and their processing needed by seven billion people, and the resultant waste stream, force more attention to be paid to environmental factors such as air and water. Two or three billion people can live pretty slovenly and get away with it, but seven billion cannot. We bump into the earth's capacity limits to deal with the impacts.
Personally, I think humans are a long ways from controlling their own numbers so I predict an ever-declining quality of life--as measured by our past. What is insidious about that is, the children born in the slums of the growing mega-cities of the sub-tropics don't know anything about that past, nor does it exist in their frame of reference. You can't lose nor worry about what you never had.
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You are kidding right. The quality of life has improved as populations have increased. You are exactly wrong! The quality of life world wide has always been improving. You just repeat liberal drivel, please.... Try thinking for yourself. HS
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Loren49
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Know Your World: Facts About Hunger and Poverty | The Hunger Project
World Hunger
842 million people - or one in eight people in the world - do not have enough to eat. 2
98% of the world's undernourished people live in developing countries.2
Where is hunger the worst?
Asia: 552 million2
Sub-Saharan Africa: 223 million2
Latin America and the Caribbean: 47 million2
Aiming at the very heart of hunger, The Hunger Project is currently committed to work in Bangladesh, Benin, Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, India, Ghana, Malawi, Mexico, Mozambique, Peru, Senegal and Uganda.
Women and Children
60 percent of the world's hungry are women.2
50 percent of pregnant women in developing countries lack proper maternal care, resulting in 240,000 maternal deaths annually from childbirth.3
1 out of 6 infants are born with a low birth weight in developing countries.4
Poor nutrition causes nearly half (45%) of deaths in children under five - 3.1 million children each year. That is 8,500 children per day.6
A third of all childhood death in sub-Saharan Africa is caused by hunger.5
66 million primary school-age children attend classes hungry across the developing world, with 23 million in Africa alone.6
Every 10 seconds, a child dies from hunger-related diseases.5
The Hunger Project firmly believes that empowering women to be key change agents is an essential element to achieving the end of hunger and poverty. Wherever we work, our programs aim to support women and build their capacity.
HIV/AIDS and other Diseases
35 million people are living with HIV/AIDS.7
52 percent of people living with HIV/AIDS are women.7
88 percent of all children and 60 percent of all women living with HIV are in sub-Saharan Africa.7
6.9 million children died in 2011 each year - 19,000 a day- mostly from preventable health issues such as malaria, diarrhea and pneumonia.5
Launched in 2003, The Hunger Project's HIV/AIDS and Gender Inequality Campaign works at the grassroots level to provide education about preventative and treatment measures.
Poverty
1.4 billion people in developing countries live on $1.25 a day or less.8
Rural areas account for three out of every four people living on less than $1.25 a day.9
22,000 children die each day due to conditions of poverty.10
Rural Hunger Project partners have access to income-generating workshops, empowering their self-reliance. Our Microfinance Program in Africa provides access to credit, adequate training and instilling in our partners the importance of saving.
Agriculture
75 percent of the world's poorest people 1.4 billion women, children, and men live in rural areas and depend on agriculture and related activities for their livelihood.11
50 percent of hungry people are farming families.11
In each region in which we work, The Hunger Project provides tools and training to increase farming production at the local level. In Africa, our epicenter partners run community farms where they implement new techniques while producing food for the epicenter food bank.
Water
1.7 billion people lack access to clean water.12
2.3 billion people suffer from water-borne diseases each year.12
12 percent of the world's population uses 85 percent of its water, and none of the 12 percent lives in developing countries.13
The Hunger Project works with communities to develop new water resources, ensure clean water and improved sanitation, and implement water conservation techniques
World population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There were less than 1 billion people in 1800.....now 1.7 billion lack good drinking water.
On average there are more hungry people on earth each year. Facts are neither liberal nor conservative.
Loren
World Hunger
842 million people - or one in eight people in the world - do not have enough to eat. 2
98% of the world's undernourished people live in developing countries.2
Where is hunger the worst?
Asia: 552 million2
Sub-Saharan Africa: 223 million2
Latin America and the Caribbean: 47 million2
Aiming at the very heart of hunger, The Hunger Project is currently committed to work in Bangladesh, Benin, Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, India, Ghana, Malawi, Mexico, Mozambique, Peru, Senegal and Uganda.
Women and Children
60 percent of the world's hungry are women.2
50 percent of pregnant women in developing countries lack proper maternal care, resulting in 240,000 maternal deaths annually from childbirth.3
1 out of 6 infants are born with a low birth weight in developing countries.4
Poor nutrition causes nearly half (45%) of deaths in children under five - 3.1 million children each year. That is 8,500 children per day.6
A third of all childhood death in sub-Saharan Africa is caused by hunger.5
66 million primary school-age children attend classes hungry across the developing world, with 23 million in Africa alone.6
Every 10 seconds, a child dies from hunger-related diseases.5
The Hunger Project firmly believes that empowering women to be key change agents is an essential element to achieving the end of hunger and poverty. Wherever we work, our programs aim to support women and build their capacity.
HIV/AIDS and other Diseases
35 million people are living with HIV/AIDS.7
52 percent of people living with HIV/AIDS are women.7
88 percent of all children and 60 percent of all women living with HIV are in sub-Saharan Africa.7
6.9 million children died in 2011 each year - 19,000 a day- mostly from preventable health issues such as malaria, diarrhea and pneumonia.5
Launched in 2003, The Hunger Project's HIV/AIDS and Gender Inequality Campaign works at the grassroots level to provide education about preventative and treatment measures.
Poverty
1.4 billion people in developing countries live on $1.25 a day or less.8
Rural areas account for three out of every four people living on less than $1.25 a day.9
22,000 children die each day due to conditions of poverty.10
Rural Hunger Project partners have access to income-generating workshops, empowering their self-reliance. Our Microfinance Program in Africa provides access to credit, adequate training and instilling in our partners the importance of saving.
Agriculture
75 percent of the world's poorest people 1.4 billion women, children, and men live in rural areas and depend on agriculture and related activities for their livelihood.11
50 percent of hungry people are farming families.11
In each region in which we work, The Hunger Project provides tools and training to increase farming production at the local level. In Africa, our epicenter partners run community farms where they implement new techniques while producing food for the epicenter food bank.
Water
1.7 billion people lack access to clean water.12
2.3 billion people suffer from water-borne diseases each year.12
12 percent of the world's population uses 85 percent of its water, and none of the 12 percent lives in developing countries.13
The Hunger Project works with communities to develop new water resources, ensure clean water and improved sanitation, and implement water conservation techniques
World population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There were less than 1 billion people in 1800.....now 1.7 billion lack good drinking water.
On average there are more hungry people on earth each year. Facts are neither liberal nor conservative.
Loren
BobRip
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Well stated. If you think 9 billion people is not too many at what number do you start to worry?
What I have seem is societal collapses occurs when the medical system (this includes medicine, sewage disposal, food supply, and everything else that keeps us healthy) cannot adapt to the people load. In the modern world disease spread travels at the speed of jets. It is a constant battle to keep up with the constantly evolving bacteria and viruses. We seem to be adapting well, but we must make good decisions to do so. These decisions must be based on facts, not beliefs. I am kinda rambling here, but it is complex and interrelated so many factors affect the outcome.
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Yeah, not one of you would go back 30 years, try 1357-1363. Tell me the world isn't better, and way more populated. You see the things you think are fixed (resources), are not. HS
dave1949
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Let's see, this thread recently added several pages discussing and cussing the pros and cons of nuclear energy. Now, no sane person would claim that anything about nuclear energy--existing from the necessity of the power demanded by a huge population--is anything other than accepting the lesser of evils along with the inherent risks.
Debating the pros and cons of nuclear energy is like discussing the quality of the hand basket we are going to Hades in. Nuclear power is only relevant because our huge population is power hungry. Without that population-driven need, the response to nuclear power would be a simple "No thanks."
Uranium mines, piles of radioactive mine tailings, nuclear accidents and failures, nuclear waste, and a vulnerability to war, terrorism and geologic forces with devastating long-term results are not improvements to anyone's quality of life. They are certainly not what would be chosen by a smaller global population that could satisfy its energy needs from safer sources.
The same applies to fossil fuels. Who would argue that smog, polluted water from spills, destroyed water sheds, global warming, decimated species and denuded forests are an improvement to anyone's quality of life? A smaller population could utilize carbon fuels more freely without exceeding the earth's ability to absorb the pollutants. A huge population using huge amounts of fossil fuels must exercise great care or suffer the consequences of excessive pollution. Because we haven't exercised great care and our population and fossil fuel consumption is still growing, we are now looking at alternatives with lower inherent environmental costs.
It's real simple to connect the dots HS. We are now going to allow undersea sonic blast oil and gas exploration knowing that it will exact a toll on already threatened species such as whales and dolphins. Only a planet with an out of control population and resultant energy demand would accept that as a lesser of evils. It is lowering our quality of life.
No matter how you slice or dice it, population pressures drive choices and requirements; many of those choices are of the lesser of evils in a slow acquiescence to a lower quality of life.
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