Spontaneous logouts

[hayden]

Muhammad,

Thanks, I'll try that next time I get logged out. I'm doing controlled experiments now while doumenting each change I make and weather I still get logouts. I just finished killing off my virus scanner (Trend Micro) and purging all cookies under all profiles on my machine. I also have enabled all cookies from all sites (turned off all of IEs protection features). We'll see how that goes.

By the way, I don't think I got an answer on whether you would expect a cookie with a tbnpassword key but no tbnuserid key? That's what I've seen on my machine. If TBN creates such a cookie, then I won't chase that. Otherwise I think it might be useful to figure out if something on my machine has hooked cookie creation and is editing them on the fly, or if somehow TBN is unintentionally creating them.

Thanks,

Peter

 

[hayden]

That didn't take long - just got logged out again.

I'll try your script.

 

[texasjohn]

Fiero, your experience of typing a reply and discovering that you are logged out is what I often experience...


Actually, if you use your browser BACK button you can get back to what you had written.... then, copy that, log back in, find the thread you were responding to, do a reply and PASTE into the reply area.

I've been doing this for more than a year because of these logouts... it is standard procedure for me... painful, but it works.

 

[hayden]

Try this:

1. Go to http://www.tractorbynet.com/photos/cookies.php

2. Click on "Delete these cookies" button.

3. Log in to the forums again.

Let me know if that helps.

I got logged out again after doing this. As before, my cookie had a tbnpassword but no tbnuserid just prior to the logout.

I think there is a fundamental question here whether these half-baked cookies (sorry, I couldn't resist) that I'm seeing are expected under some condition, or not. If they are not expected, then there is corruption of cookies happending. I have yet to see a case where my cookies are missing prior to getting logged out - they are always there but corrupted.

 

[MikePA]

I got logged out again after doing this. As before, my cookie had a tbnpassword but no tbnuserid just prior to the logout.

I think there is a fundamental question here whether these half-baked cookies (sorry, I couldn't resist) that I'm seeing are expected under some condition, or not. If they are not expected, then there is corruption of cookies happending. I have yet to see a case where my cookies are missing prior to getting logged out - they are always there but corrupted.

What makes you think the cookies are corrupted?

 

[texasjohn]

Hayden, any chance you could PM MikePA and send him a COPY/PASTE of the cookies you are seeing..... so he can see the same thing you are ..... words are inadequate to describe the cookie contents, etc...he needs to see the actual thing.

 

[hayden]

Take a look at post #50. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/news-feedback/120080-spontaneous-logouts-5.html#post1445356 I attached an example of the half-baked cookie.

I can post another if you like. I'm just looking at them with notepad. The key names are in clear text, followed by a value (sometimes encrypted). The other junk I expect is an encoding of the expiration time for the key.

If you look at the cookie between pages, you will eventually see one that has the "tbnpassword" field, but no "tbnuserid" fiield. A good cookie has both. Once you have a half-baked cookie, you are doomed. I haven't figured out exactly which page transitions recheck login info, but once you hit one you will be logged out.

 

[hayden]

You can also use Muhammad's cookie viewer page or Karen's Cookie viewer to see the cookie contents in a prettier format. Both of these tools are referenced in earlier posts. They both confirm what I'm seeing in Notepad.

I'll note again that I don't know for sure that these are corrupted versus intended TBN cookie content - that's the outstanding question to the forum gurus. What I do know is that once one of these cookies ends up on your system, you are toast.

If the half-bakes cookies are NOT intended by TBN, then we still don't know whether TBN is getting confused and only storing partial info in the cookie, or if some client side or network resident software is corrupting the cookies.

 

[Fiero guy]

Fiero, your experience of typing a reply and discovering that you are logged out is what I often experience...


Actually, if you use your browser BACK button you can get back to what you had written.... then, copy that, log back in, find the thread you were responding to, do a reply and PASTE into the reply area.

I've been doing this for more than a year because of these logouts... it is standard procedure for me... painful, but it works.

No- that won't work for me, because IE deletes the text I typed as soon as I leave that input field for any reason. It's a security function that prevents anything typed or submitted in a form from being kept in temp intenet files or some other folder. I could probably go into tools/internet settings/security/ and change it, but since I use this machine for other things besides TBN, I prefer not to. One way I know I can ensure I won't have to type it all again, is to highlight all my text, then right click and "copy". It is now on what used to be called my clipboard. If the actual reply rides the thunder, all I have to do is bring back the reply page, and press ctrl-v and the original text will be automatically pasted into the reply box.
Don

 

[Ibrahim]

When you view a cookie, one will contain your userid and one will contain your password. That's how it is on my computer.

How are you logging in to TBN? Are you typing: 'tractorbynet.com' and browsing like that? Or are you typing: 'www.tractorbynet.com'?