Stuck Again

[Kendrick]

I agree with Dav, use a hydro one electric would not be good one a unit like that.

 

[Renze]

Warn advises the winch capacity to be 1.5 times the weight of the vehicle.
Electric winches loose capacit fast if the battery runs low.
A Warn M8000 will toast a 25 hp tractor battery.
Last week we finished a car hauler body on a 12 ton truck, with hydraulic upper deck and, since the oil pump was already installed for the 2nd floor, also a hydraulic winch.
I love the truck PTO pump, it runs so much better than any of the 12 or 24V electric winches and electric hydro units we normally use on lighter stuff.

 

[the6shooter]

Hey guy's the winch was just a thought.
but posting it got some action going.
I have gotten myself out of being stuck with the FEL before, I was just in a place, that buried the corner of the brush hog. and the tractor sunk like a rock. I tried the FEL, and only made quicksand. the winch was just a thought.
thanks david

 

[jsborn]

This looks interesting and could be used from the Tractor aux hyd if your pressure is not to high.

Mile Marker - Abused Worldwide!! Hydraulic and Electric Winches

 

[Knotbored]

Several times I thought I was stuck pretty good but found my Kabota has a pedal that locks the rearend down on the floor behind the clutch. Its amazing to this amature how my lil tractor can suck itself out of mud with all wheels engaged and that pedal down.

Has anyone considered mounting a small wheel outside a rear wheel, winding a cable to that and using wheel power to tow a tractor out?-Not permanent, just bolted onto the rear tire bolt pattern if/when you are stuck?

 

[bucmeister]

I seriously doubt many trucks have an alternator that puts out more than what the winch draws under load. Most vehicle alternators likely fall in the 60-120 amp range and a 12 K winch would likely draw double that when under a hard pull. So why doesn't every truck with a winch have repeat altenator failures almost every time the winch is used?

 

[RonMar]

Several times I thought I was stuck pretty good but found my Kabota has a pedal that locks the rearend down on the floor behind the clutch. Its amazing to this amature how my lil tractor can suck itself out of mud with all wheels engaged and that pedal down.

Has anyone considered mounting a small wheel outside a rear wheel, winding a cable to that and using wheel power to tow a tractor out?-Not permanent, just bolted onto the rear tire bolt pattern if/when you are stuck?

You can achieve the same thing by passing a chain/cable thru the wheel and attaching it to itself right in the middle of the tire tread. Run the free end back to an anchor point and take out as much slack as you can The chain will be pulled down into the mud, but as it comes under tension, the wheel will back right up the chain. This of course requires a locking rear differential, or you need to do it to both wheels at the same time.

This method and a second dually rim bolted to the wheel, both have the same limitation, they need an anchor point pretty much directly behind the tractor wheel.

 

[RonMar]

I seriously doubt many trucks have an alternator that puts out more than what the winch draws under load. Most vehicle alternators likely fall in the 60-120 amp range and a 12 K winch would likely draw double that when under a hard pull. So why doesn't every truck with a winch have repeat altenator failures almost every time the winch is used?

You are correct, I don't know of any stock vehicle alternator that will meet the demands of a winch under heavy load. Any alternator in this situation gets a workout. But an alterntor designed to put out 100 amps is designed to dissipatemore heat, deal with a lot more current and will fare better than an alternator designed to put out 20A. I think I used a 200 amp load for 5 minutes in my last example, lets tripple it. A 600 amp load for 5 minutes is 50 amp hours. A hundred amp alternator would make that up in 1/2 hour...

 

[MarEng]

Similar to JSTPSSNG, practice with that FEL. I can count on one hand the # of times I haven't been able to 'walk-out' with the FEL, the Diff Lock and differential braking. In those cases where I couldn't at first walk-out, I either had to drop the implement - I was able to then lift it clear or drag it clear with a chain and re-attach - or wait a day (quicksand) and then walk-out. I have on a few occassions had to put some 4x4s under the FEL edge to give me more lift area and keep the bucket from sinking in. In slimy, slick clay a bale of hay helps get some traction.

The secret (learned the hard way) is to recognize you're stuck early, before the mud is over the axles and abandon the load in the FEL or on the 3-pt and start extracting yourself.

 

[MJPetersen]

The secret (learned the hard way) is to recognize you're stuck early, before the mud is over the axles and abandon the load in the FEL or on the 3-pt and start extracting yourself.

That is well said and so true.

Mike