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Maybe you should look into the Milemarker Hydraulic winch. I know I have seen on used on this site as a logging winch.
The first time I saw a Warn winch in action, a guy with a 78 Ford with big tires had installed it on his truck with stock electrical system. By the time he got the cable tight he killed the battery and alternator. After several hours of pulling with my F250 and a Blazer we went after a wrecker. I have a multimount Ramsey 9k winch that I can put on my Samurai, Dodge 2500 and trailer. I have a 105 amp alternator on my Samurai and 160 amp on the Dodge. When pulling heavy loads I have to stop every few minutes to let the winch cool and the battery charge. (Run the vechicle at about 2000rpm's to charge faster. I did get my Dodge stuck in an open field and had to call home to get someone to bring my Pul-pal, that and snatch block pulled my heavy Dodge out of some deep ruts.
Edit: Along with a winch most people don't carry the extra recovery equipment. You need d-rings chain, tow straps, tree saver strap, winch anchors are nice to have also. Don't forget a shovel and gloves. Never grab a winch cable bare handed, Those little wires hurt. JC
 
   / Stuck Again #43  
RollTideRam said:
Maybe you should look into the Milemarker Hydraulic winch. JC
That's what I have on my CJ-7. Works great. No load on my battery and super fast line speed, not to mention tremendous power. BTW, they're open center...

I don't get stuck...

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   / Stuck Again #44  
bjcsc said:
That's what I have on my CJ-7. Works great. No load on my battery and super fast line speed, not to mention tremendous power. BTW, they're open center...

I don't get stuck...

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Thats one nice CJ7, here is mine:
 

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bjcsc said:
That's what I have on my CJ-7. Works great. No load on my battery and super fast line speed, not to mention tremendous power. BTW, they're open center...

I don't get stuck...

My only problem with a hydraulic winch is what do you do if the engine stalls? Or the vehicle is tilted where oil pick up could be a problem. SOL.

Since I don't like using a winch and try to avoid needing one, I use the old Ramsey series with the permanant magnets. Only about 200a draw verses the 450a draw of a series wound motor like Warn. Plus on my truck and ATV's I rigged a multi mount system so I can move the winch to the front or back. Sometimes I just don't want to go forward anymore. :D I rarely put the winch on my truck these days, I keep it out of the river bottom (3rd pic).

But yes the power winches are sweet if the motor is running.

Rob
 

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   / Stuck Again #46  
RobJ said:
My only problem with a hydraulic winch is what do you do if the engine stalls?

But yes the power winches are sweet if the motor is running.

Rob

It's a moot point. If it won't run, the tow truck is coming anyway, i.e. there's no benefit in getting it out. Not to mention, an electric winch without the engine running won't do much for long. Mine also works underwater...

But there is a lot of wisdom in your post. Winches are certainly designed to get you out of things you never should have gotten into!

The MM hydraulic would make a great winch for a tractor. Fab a mount, plumb it to your remotes, and run power to the switch solenoids. No load on the tractor's electrical system and nearly any tractor has the flow it requires.

Nice CJ czechsonofagun...
 
   / Stuck Again #48  
Thanks, it's an '83 CJ-7 Limited (thus the satin black windshield frame) Reagrding winch power, yes, I have an AGR high flow pump (and AGR steering box). Basically, your high pressure line runs from the pump to the winch, then from the winch to the steering box, then low pressure from the steering box back to the reservoir. It's a nice setup. The winch has 2 speeds, too.
 
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bjcsc said:
It's a moot point. If it won't run, the tow truck is coming anyway, i.e. there's no benefit in getting it out. Not to mention, an electric winch without the engine running won't do much for long. Mine also works underwater...

But there is a lot of wisdom in your post. Winches are certainly designed to get you out of things you never should have gotten into!

The MM hydraulic would make a great winch for a tractor. Fab a mount, plumb it to your remotes, and run power to the switch solenoids. No load on the tractor's electrical system and nearly any tractor has the flow it requires.

Nice CJ czechsonofagun...

I think it's not a moot point. An electric winch is sealed and will work under water....for an amount of time. If you are in a rising creek or drainage ditch, I'd want to recover my vehicle ASAP and a tow truck might not be able to make it in...many are not 4wd. I'd want to recover my vehicle ASAP anyway to prevent any further damage.

If you are referring to a hydrauliuc winch working under water, I believe they will. But if the pictured jeep's winch is underwater, then I don't see the engine running. That seems to be more than half way up the motor and water would be in the doors(but really a jeep that nice looking is probably not going to see any serious trouble...at least it wouldn't if I owned it..:D). Not to mention the fan would be kicking up some serious splash.

But yeah not bad for a tractor. Usually they just get stuck in the mud up to the axles and most folks stay away from rising water and the really nasty stuff. Looking at the MM website it seems the price has come down. My BIL looked at one a few years ago for a Range Rover and it was in the $1500-$2000 range. Looks like about half that now.

Good Luck,
Rob
 
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MarcusCarr said:
I would skip the winch all together.

grab a 6" dia or so log that is about 2 feet longer than the diameter of your rear tire, put the log beside the tire at axle height with 12" past each side of the tire, run a chain through the wheel and around the log. Put the tractor in low reverse and you can drive out of anything. The tire turns, tightens the chain on the log, turns the log and acts as a stilt.

You already have a powerful winch...your rear axle.

BIG WARNING...you need to back up when you do this.

If you have to go forward, be careful. If the log is long enough it will flip the tractor backwards.

Marcus

PS. I realize this is an old post, but this method has saved me a lot of money. Didn't have to call someone out to tow me =]

Found your example on You tube...

YouTube - Fordson tractor stuck in the mud
 

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