Buying Advice sub compact tractor

[Don87]

Sorry Don, I don't see you putting anything in front of anyone, other than your OPINION and if something factual was there, I suspect you would do so. Find your corner please.

Opinions and facts are two entirely different things.

If you can't look at the specifications of the Max series, and look at the Specs of the Kubota B2630.........and realize that they are the same basic machine, then there is no hope for you.

You may as well go buy a Ford Ranger to pull that 30 foot camper around, after all it is a 'truck' just like the Fprd F250..........shouldn't be a problem in your world.

Mahindra does not make a subcompact tractor.

 

[kootch88]

Opinions and facts are two entirely different things.

If you can't look at the specifications of the Max series, and look at the Specs of the Kubota B2630.........and realize that they are the same basic machine, then there is no hope for you.

You may as well go buy a Ford Ranger to pull that 30 foot camper around, after all it is a 'truck' just like the Fprd F250..........shouldn't be a problem in your world.

Mahindra does not make a subcompact tractor.

HAHAHA You still don't get it, who made Kubota God as far as tractor classifications go? You are brilliant!! Keep drinking the stuff, whatever it is, and let me know when and if you ever find a standard to actually go by other than the voice of Don.

 

[Don87]

HAHAHA You still don't get it, who made Kubota God as far as tractor classifications go? You are brilliant!! Keep drinking the stuff, whatever it is, and let me know when and if you ever find a standard to actually go by other than the voice of Don.

You still don't get it for some reason...........Mahindra does not build a subcompact tractor.


I've got a great deal for you.........3 acres of ocean front property in Arizona. You can ride your 'subcompact Mahindra' there.

 

[murphy1244]

You still don't get it for some reason...........Mahindra does not build a subcompact tractor.


I've got a great deal for you.........3 acres of ocean front property in Arizona. You can ride your 'subcompact Mahindra' there.

My God you are a pain....The Max series is the epitome of ALL scuts...

 

[kootch88]

You still don't get it for some reason...........Mahindra does not build a subcompact tractor.


I've got a great deal for you.........3 acres of ocean front property in Arizona. You can ride your 'subcompact Mahindra' there.

"There's no place like home, there's no place like home" Now click your the heels of your ruby slippers and maybe you will go back to Kansas with Toto.

 

[Don87]

"There's no place like home, there's no place like home" Now click your the heels of your ruby slippers and maybe you will go back to Kansas with Toto.

Your still here.........I thought you hooked your 30 foot fifth wheel camper to your Ford Ranger, and was headed to that ocean front property in Arizona(did I mention that the back third of the proprty is the ski resort), so you could groom the slopes with that "subcompact Mahindra Max":laughing::laughing::laughing:

Mahindra does not build a subcompact tractor.

 

[kootch88]

You truly are limited, the sorry thing is you don't realize it and probably thing you are brilliant.:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: Have a good night. I hope to hear from you tomorrow.

 

[dkizerian]

Your still here.........I thought you hooked your 30 foot fifth wheel camper to your Ford Ranger, and was headed to that ocean front property in Arizona(did I mention that the back third of the proprty is the ski resort), so you could groom the slopes with that "subcompact Mahindra Max":laughing::laughing::laughing:

Mahindra does not build a subcompact tractor.

i just dont think you get it Don, there is no spec for a sub compact, Mahindra might be pushing the envelope by calling even the Max 22 a SCUT, but this happens in the world of bigger is better.

If not then we'd all be driving Compact cars the size and weight of datsun 510s, or VW Rabbits. Cars of similar size to what was once called compact, are now called sub compacts, and still weigh 500lbs more than COMPACTS of the past, and have about 20 more horsepower.

Whether you want to agree with it or not, most vehicles have seen this same evolution in size, weight, capability or all three.

****, I had an 87 ford 3/4 ton which had the heaviest duty options, and was rated to tow ONLY 7900lbs or so. My current 1/2 ton truck is rated to tow 10500, are you saying that Ford, Dodge, Chevrolet, Toyota and Nissan are all lying to consumers? or would you say that the market has evolved and 1/2 ton trucks are more capable and heavier than previous 1/2 ton trucks?

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Back to the OP, find a decent brand used tractor, that has a supporting dealer close by, and ignore what class it's manufacturer has branded it with, and just make sure its comfortable for you to operate, and capable of doing what you think you need it to, and then some.

Good Luck

 

[Martian]

I was too lazy to write the same thing from another thread, so I'll copy and paste it here as well, because it is 100% relevant:

I've been subscribed to this thread since its start, after hearing all the arguing, I'm now willing to discuss Kubota vs JD. It will be an improvement.

C'mon guys, for all I care JD can call their 9560 a SCUT, it doesn't matter what they call it, but how it's made and how it fits you! NAMING MEANS NOTHING!!!

Glad we can move on...

 

[Don87]

i just dont think you get it Don, there is no spec for a sub compact,

Actually, it is some of you on here that apparently can't grasp the scope of the conversation.

Mahindra does not build a subcompact tractor.

The smallest tractor that Mahindra has is a Comact Utility Tractor (CUT).

Mahindra builds some nice equipment from what I've read here on TBN, but they have falsely advetised a product. They are lieing to unsuspecting consumers, and that should be of concern to all of you out there. Especially those of you here on TBN......one of the biggest most helpful communities on the net.

It just boggles my mind that some on here don't have the mental capacity to see that Mahindra is perpetrating a fraud.

There is a clear line between subcuts and cuts. Mahindra has crossed that line by portraying a cut, as a subcut, and comparing said machines to subcuts.

Like I said..........it's like comparing an F250 to a Ford Ranger. The only similarity is that they are both listed as trucks.


EDIT: I have an e-mail into Mahinra about this, I'll post it if I get a response.

 

[Martian]

Actually, it is some of you on here that apparently can't grasp the scope of the conversation.

Mahindra does not build a subcompact tractor.

The smallest tractor that Mahindra has is a Comact Utility Tractor (CUT).

Mahindra builds some nice equipment from what I've read here on TBN, but they have falsely advetised a product. They are lieing to unsuspecting consumers, and that should be of concern to all of you out there. Especially those of you here on TBN......one of the biggest most helpful communities on the net.

It just boggles my mind that some on here don't have the mental capacity to see that Mahindra is perpetrating a fraud.

There is a clear line between subcuts and cuts. Mahindra has crossed that line by portraying a cut, as a subcut, and comparing said machines to subcuts.

Like I said..........it's like comparing an F250 to a Ford Ranger. The only similarity is that they are both listed as trucks.

More like a Peterbilt 385 to a Prius!! Really no need to be doing what you're doing, Don.

 

[jenkinsph]

Problem solved, reclassify the BX series as mini-compact.

The key word being "miniature" for the 1500 anyway. Heck I like them I just don't see them as being tractors as L Brown does.

 

[dkizerian]

Don, did you read any of rest of my post, or just the first line which you quoted?
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I'm just not even sure why you even care so much about this arbitrary SCUT definition that you have in your head? until you can show me a true industry standard for all SCUT's it is just an arbitrary marketing term that doesn't matter.

If a manufacturer was saying the tractor had 80HP, but it only hd 60, or said it could lift 25 bajillion pounds with the front end loader, when in reality it can only lift 2000 pounds, then there would be a serious problem, and saying that they were misleading or lying would be true.

SCUT is just a marketing term, nothing else. if somebody wanted to make a 20ft long, 3 ft wide tractor with only 10HP that could lift 5000 pounds, and they wanted to market it against say the BX series, they're entitled to that comparison, as long as in all of their marketing material, the specs for each tractor are accurate.

 

[dkizerian]

More like a Peterbilt 385 to a Prius!! Really no need to be doing what you're doing, Don.

or a mountain to a mole-hill

 

[Don87]

More like a Peterbilt 385 to a Prius!! Really no need to be doing what you're doing, Don.

Kinda sorta..........I don't like the false advertising.

Mahindra has used a Cut series tractor to compare to all the subcuts out there. They were wrong for doing this..

You, I, and several others know this to be true.

I'm trying to protect the consumers, and my friends here on TBN that may not be.......up to snuff on the tractors.

If we, as a tractor community, let Mahindra get away with this false advertisement..........what company will try what tricks next?

 

[Don87]

Don, did you read any of rest of my post, or just the first line which you quoted?
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[Martian]

Kinda sorta..........I don't like the false advertising.

Mahindra has used a Cut series tractor to compare to all the subcuts out there. They were wrong for doing this..

You, I, and several others know this to be true.

I'm trying to protect the consumers, and my friends here on TBN that may not be.......up to snuff on the tractors.

If we, as a tractor community, let Mahindra get away with this false advertisement..........what company will try what tricks next?

As stated, Mahindra doesn't want the B market, the want the BX market with their Max. The stature of the Max is the near the B, but the turning radius is sharper than the BX, so doesn't that make it just as nimble? I know that Mahindra isn't 100% correct in their comparison, but no comparison can be 100% correct. Don't take this wrong, but you are also wrong in all your negative posts about them as well. I've never known a single person to buy a tractor without trying at least the same model and getting that same model elsewhere. If a person tries a BX and tries a Max, to find the Max may be just a nudge larger, but more nimble, for less money and more power, I think that would be very compelling. I've come to agree with many of your posts Don. And I do agree that the Max may be better suited for comparison against a B in size, but if were talking price, a Max is the same price as a Deere x500, so now the Max is competing not only with a B series Kubota, but a midrange lawnmower. And what comes with that is what's in-between. Since it's really not super fair to compare it to either of those, why not compare in-between?

 

[Don87]

As stated, Mahindra doesn't want the B market, the want the BX market with their Max. The stature of the Max is the near the B, but the turning radius is sharper than the BX, so doesn't that make it just as nimble? I know that Mahindra isn't 100% correct in their comparison, but no comparison can be 100% correct. Don't take this wrong, but you are also wrong in all your negative posts about them as well. I've never known a single person to buy a tractor without trying at least the same model and getting that same model elsewhere. If a person tries a BX and tries a Max, to find the Max may be just a nudge larger, but more nimble, for less money and more power, I think that would be very compelling. I've come to agree with many of your posts Don. And I do agree that the Max may be better suited for comparison against a B in size, but if were talking price, a Max is the same price as a Deere x500, so now the Max is competing not only with a B series Kubota, but a midrange lawnmower. And what comes with that is what's in-between. Since it's really not super fair to compare it to either of those, why not compare in-between?

The problem is that they aren't comparing 'in between'.

The Max is, according to the specs, a cut tractor. While the turning radius may be sharper........we can refer to the New Holland oversteer tractors. New holland didn't change their classification just because they could do a 90 degree turn from a standstill much like a zero turn does.

Mahindra is falsely advertising their product, and I feel it is the duty of us 'people in the know' to divulge this information to newcomers so they can make a viable decision based on facts and not company falsified hype.

 

[Martian]

The problem is that they aren't comparing 'in between'.

The Max is, according to the specs, a cut tractor. While the turning radius may be sharper........we can refer to the New Holland oversteer tractors. New holland didn't change their classification just because they could do a 90 degree turn from a standstill much like a zero turn does.

Mahindra is falsely advertising their product, and I feel it is the duty of us 'people in the know' to divulge this information to newcomers so the can make a viable decision based on facts and not company falsified hype.

And this is where we disagree. I too have looked at the specs. Your version of 'correct' is not my version of correct. Mahindra wants the SCUTs to become bigger. As with everything Mahindra does they want bigger, and bigger machines. Not a single Mahindra machine is a lightweight for it's class. They want to takeout the 'non-sense' lawn mowing and make a tractor to do light chores. Their goal is a secondary lawn mowing machine. They've done this by increasing the size while also increasing the versatility, while decreasing the end cost.

With your power steer comparison we are getting into technicalities as well. The power steer version also added quite a bit of cost to the machine. The Max is still a tweener between a SCUT and a CUT and Mahindra is going after the SCUT market. More power to them.

By your theory, if someone gets a Max, we should not be happy for them even if they are more than happy with their purchase because they should have expected a slightly smaller tractor with less versatility and less power. Doesn't work for me. And quite a few others as well.

 

[Don87]

And this is where we disagree. I too have looked at the specs. Your version of 'correct' is not my version of correct. Mahindra wants the SCUTs to become bigger. As with everything Mahindra does they want bigger, and bigger machines. Not a single Mahindra machine is a lightweight for it's class. They want to takeout the 'non-sense' lawn mowing and make a tractor to do light chores. Their goal is a secondary lawn mowing machine. They've done this by increasing the size while also increasing the versatility, while decreasing the end cost.

With your power steer comparison we are getting into technicalities as well. The power steer version also added quite a bit of cost to the machine. The Max is still a tweener between a SCUT and a CUT and Mahindra is going after the SCUT market. More power to them.

By your theory, if someone gets a Max, we should not be happy for them even if they are more than happy with their purchase because they should have expected a slightly smaller tractor with less versatility and less power. Doesn't work for me. And quite a few others as well.

Negative. The Max is longer, wider and higher than a subcut. My property and lots of others out there won't support that size machine.

While I will concede that people can take a rule.and measure the tractor at the dealer, most don't.

They come to TBN for advice, they are advised to get a subcut, they go shopping and run across this fantastic deal on this "subcut" called a Mahindra.

The machine looked small on the lot, but they get it home and it's too big, but, the TBN guys said get a subcut..........and the buyer did(according to Mahindra).

Now it's TBN's fault, cause we should have known that the "Mahindra subcut" was actually a "cut sized machine", but marketed as a subcompact.

We as a community lose face with the public because Mahindra thinks they can reclassify at will and nobody will notice.


I disagree with Mahindra and their classification of the Max Series.