sub-soil rippers

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It wasn't that the box blade rippers wouldn't go in the ground, the rippers kind of pull themselves into the ground You just cant tilt a box blade but so much before you run out of top link threads. If you shorten the top link too much, the box blade will flip over when it gets enough pressure to compress the linkage to the draft control a bit, BTDT. I have my top link within about an inch of screwed in completely. The most I could get was maybe half the shank in the ground and then the back of the box blade starts to drag also.

When I put on the new ripper, the first pass it went almost to the beam. The next pass I noticed the lift control arm wasn't down all the way, so I lowered it a bit more and then beam was dragging the ground. A couple of spots with very hard compacted clay soil, it stalled the tractor (wheel slippage) so I had to raise it, backup and hit it again to bust thru. The Cat 1 ripper handled all the Cat 2 tractor wanted to give.
I will try to get a photo of it to post.
 
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One of this style?

Rankin scarifier

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Often the hitch pins are higher so it will go deeper than a box blade, even without taking into consideration the blade behind interfering.

Bruce
It is much stronger built that this one. See photos
 
   / sub-soil rippers #15  
I would love to have the soil type something like that would dig in, but I am sure it would just skip across the top of my very hard clay/rock "soil". To understand what I deal with, imagine someone mixing up a few billion cubic yards of expansive clay with rocks from fist size to small boulder size and then pouring the mix onto the bedrock, and you have my property. There is no just removing the surface rocks and immediate subsurface as it is rocks all of the way through.

Here is my Fred Cain subsoiler, same one ETA is using in their videos. It is unused so far as I do not have the heart to even hook it up yet. I have to clear 1.5 acres of dense trees for the home site (less rocky area) and will use the subsoiler to rip through some of the stump roots to make it easier to remove the smaller stumps. Then will have a mini-x dig out the larger stumps.

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Yes a Yeomans plough is a great subsoiler but it's an expensive piece of gear that I wouldn't recommended solely for ripping out rocks

Ripping out rocks is something that usually occurs with subsoiling or chisel ploughing, regardless of whether you want to rip them out or not.
The yeomans plows main function is that of a subsoiling, but if you take a look at photos of some of the country that it has developed rocks do not present a problem.
Looking at some of the machines shown on this thread I would say that they appear to light for working in rocky going.
 
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I would love to have the soil type something like that would dig in, but I am sure it would just skip across the top of my very hard clay/rock "soil". To understand what I deal with, imagine someone mixing up a few billion cubic yards of expansive clay with rocks from fist size to small boulder size and then pouring the mix onto the bedrock, and you have my property. There is no just removing the surface rocks and immediate subsurface as it is rocks all of the way through.

Here is my Fred Cain subsoiler, same one ETA is using in their videos. It is unused so far as I do not have the heart to even hook it up yet. I have to clear 1.5 acres of dense trees for the home site (less rocky area) and will use the subsoiler to rip through some of the stump roots to make it easier to remove the smaller stumps. Then will have a mini-x dig out the larger stumps.

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In some of my super hard clay areas, it digs in and stalls the tractor if I let it down all the way in one pass. This thing has no problem digging in even the hardest soil. I think you have to set the top link right for it to dig in. As seen in the photos, my attachment frame is level so the teeth set at a natural incline to dig in rather than skim along. Kind of like setting the angle on a straight blade for digging or skimming.
Your Fred Cain sub-soiler would be best for cutting roots. Maybe sharpen the leading edge so it cuts thru easier. I don't think your DK45 would have the power to pull this 5 plow ripper especially in roots or super hard soil. Maybe going multiple passes and working it down a little at a time would work. Even with fully ballasted tires, I run out of traction with my P7010 when I hit my hard clay soil area.
 
   / sub-soil rippers #19  
Gary, that would come in handy for aerating and draining a wet area caused by soil that has become compacted over the years.
I could use one of those myself. I have a spot in my pasture that stays wet for a few days after a rain.
 
   / sub-soil rippers #20  
Ripping out rocks is something that usually occurs with subsoiling or chisel ploughing, regardless of whether you want to rip them out or not.
The yeomans plows main function is that of a subsoiling, but if you take a look at photos of some of the country that it has developed rocks do not present a problem.
Looking at some of the machines shown on this thread I would say that they appear to light for working in rocky going.

Agreed a Yeomans plough & most subsoilers can handle rocky country, but they're are an expensive & poor substitute for dedicated rippers - we operate a lot of gear including these implements & I wouldn't recommending using a yeomans to clear or break rocks (no unless you have $'s to burn), far cheaper & productive to use something designed for the tasks like these rippers to surface the rocks followed by a crusher to break them up :
 

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