Comparison The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten

   / The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten #161  
There's not enough of them... In my case the largest one is over an hour away, is supposed to be a 5 star dealer but basically rips people off. It's NOT just me either.
Hence your previous comment...
My next tractor could very well be a Kioti. The specs of the geared 2610 are very similar to that of my old L275, which was a great machine. More importantly, the new dealer down toward the coast has always been A-1. If they run their tractor business the way they do all of their others it will be a good place to do business. I have to drive 80-90 miles in any direction just to find a tractor dealer of any species.
 
   / The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten #162  
I bought (2) Kubota farm tractors pretty cheap in the last 10 years, but by 3000 hours of FARMING work and bush hogging, they have become increasingly troublesome. Repairs are beginnig to pile up.
Kubotas wheelhouse is still small tractors. Their larger tractors are ok, but don’t compare to proper, larger legacy names like AGCO/MF, Case-IH, Deere, etc. for farm use longevity.
Without getting in a peeing match with you I don't consider running hay to be farming nor do I consider running a shredder farming. Farming to me is tillage, discing and cultivating with ground engaging implements. Running hay is just big time mowing and shredding is mowing with coarse cut blades. So you have big mowers and balers but it all distills down to no ground engagement. You don't farm, you harvest a grass crop by mowing, raking and bailing it. Same as I do but your scale is much larger. I have zero issues with my tractors for what I do, they are just fine.
 
   / The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten #163  
Without getting in a peeing match with you I don't consider running hay to be farming nor do I consider running a shredder farming. Farming to me is tillage, discing and cultivating with ground engaging implements. Running hay is just big time mowing and shredding is mowing with coarse cut blades. So you have big mowers and balers but it all distills down to no ground engagement. You don't farm, you harvest a grass crop by mowing, raking and bailing it. Same as I do but your scale is much larger. I have zero issues with my tractors for what I do, they are just fine.
Thank God he wasn't working those machines hard with real farming work. They wouldn't have lasted as long as they have if they couldn't even hold up to the easy life of mowing and raking grass. :ROFLMAO:
 
   / The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten #164  
Mine hold up just fine. Must be the owner. Mine aren't new either, far from it, 2002 and 2004. Other than the chronic faded Kubota Orange paint, both are all good.
 
   / The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten #165  
Mine hold up just fine. Must be the owner. Mine aren't new either, far from it, 2002 and 2004. Other than the chronic faded Kubota Orange paint, both are all good.

To be fair, Kubota's from this era are absolute tanks, just damn near indestructible.
 
   / The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten #166  
To be fair, Kubota's from this era are absolute tanks, just damn near indestructible.
Both are solid units other than the paint jobs and they stay inside too and they still faded. Had the open station tuned up this spring and I was there when the tech pulled the valve cover, just as clean underneath as new. Steady diet of T6 and Archoil Friction modifier. Just changed both sumps and filters today.

I really like the Archoil additive. it's not cheap but they stay squeaky clean inside.

Got my Blackstone sample bottles filled to. Tomorrow, off to Blackstone for an oil analysis.

Not expecting any issues but I prefer to err on the safe side anyway. I've never had much blowby on either. Takes a year for the oil to really color up. Anymore, they are more of an investment than working tractors. Only increasing in value too.
 
   / The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten #167  
My stepfather has an 02-03 L3830, glide shift, and he treats it like the red-headed stepchild of a rented mule; I don't know how many years it's been outside, when or if the oil was last changed, or much of anything else. It still runs like new.

I know they're a whole different class, but those L30 machines were some of the finest Kubota has produced.
 
   / The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten #168  
Lots of farms... Dairy, Tree, etc...
 
   / The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten #169  
Without getting in a peeing match with you I don't consider running hay to be farming nor do I consider running a shredder farming. Farming to me is tillage, discing and cultivating with ground engaging implements. Running hay is just big time mowing and shredding is mowing with coarse cut blades. So you have big mowers and balers but it all distills down to no ground engagement. You don't farm, you harvest a grass crop by mowing, raking and bailing it. Same as I do but your scale is much larger. I have zero issues with my tractors for what I do, they are just fine.
I know what you mean, when we plow soil we're not actually farming, just big time weeding. See, I can say ridiculous things too.
 
   / The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten #170  
21 years ago I went to a JD dealer and asked about a new machine on their lot that I was interested in purchasing. He basically said "There it is" and walked away. So did I. ;)

Does not say a thing about the quality of the machine. But man, that left a lasting bad impression.
When I moved here I had to have an old, but cherry farm truck "inspected" by a dealer. Not for safety but rather comparing VIN numbers and registration accuracy. No big deal but I had to wait a few minutes.

The conversation with the owner's son shifted to the new Thunderbird coming out since it intrigued me and I was thinking of that or a Corvette. I asked if they had presale and what kind of money they were going to ask for it. He replied it really didn't matter because I couldn't afford it anyway.

I nearly fainted at that stupidity. I said, yeah, you're right and left. Good thing I never bought one because they turned out to be overpriced and underpowered. Oh well, fate has a way of helping out.
 

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