Buying Advice Thinking about Yanmar 2210 but need some help

[Florida_Farmer]

took a look at a 2210 today with powershift. Tractor has been sitting a bunch. Motor is good and strong, no leaks sounds great. Drivetrain and 3pt are acting up. 3pt doesn't function no lift or drop. Owner has it chained up. Put it in gear and release the clutch and you can feel it try to engage and pull but doesn't go. We played with it for a bit and a few times it "caught" and took off solid.

Initially I thought the clutch was slipping or not engaging but when it grabbed - it was not slipping at all. Could this all be hydraulic related? BTW - Hydro was full but milkey

I'm on the fence - have had (and still have) other yanmars and love them but this issue may be above my paygrade unless you think I can flush it out, clean/replace the filter and have a good shot at fixing it...
Price is good and comes with a few implements that are almost worth the price of the tractor.

Look forward to your input - thanks.

 

[California]

took a look at a 2210 today with powershift. Tractor has been sitting a bunch. ... Put it in gear and release the clutch and you can feel it try to engage and pull but doesn't go. We played with it for a bit and a few times it "caught" and took off solid.

Initially I thought the clutch was slipping or not engaging but when it grabbed - it was not slipping at all. Could this all be hydraulic related? BTW - Hydro was full but milkey

Price is good and comes with a few implements that are almost worth the price of the tractor.

If you could recover most/all of the cost selling the implements, and you have the time to fool around with this - then for me I would go ahead. With an expectation that the outcome could be anything.

If it grabbed a few times and powered the drivetrain properly, then likely nothing is broken but just dirty. Engaging the clutch powers the input shaft to the transmission, this spins the internal pump which sends fluid through various passages to engage the clutch packs, and when they engage you start moving.

My suspicion with milky fluid is this is the only problem, likely including crudded-up internal passages that would likely clean up if you ran a couple of flushes of ATF. (which is more 'detergent' than UTF). Part of how Powershift works is that hydraulic fluid is sent to little pistons that when they move, a passage is uncovered to allow fluid into a different passage. A stuck piston will cause weird shift results. Clean ATF and maybe getting it up to operating temperature will hopefully clean it up. Powershift generally is bulletproof. Its real rare to read of a PS problem in this forum.

I've won a lot more gambles like this than lost, but it could go either way. I, personally, would do it.

 

[California]

3-point is a different issue than the driveline. Maybe a $300 hydraulic pump, or else a teardown of the lifting mechanism on the top/rear of the transmission - an afternoon of labor and $50 ??? parts.

 

[Florida_Farmer]

Thanks for the info - it is informative - I've never had a powershift. My Yanmars were both 1500's - my New Holland TC33D is hydro and I really like that. Yes - a box blade, rake and standard blade plus the tractor for well under 2K - a little surface rust here and there, rubber is good, battery looks good and engine oil was clean. Has a foot throttle - it's a Zen-Noh model so the fenders / platform are bit more detailed than my standard Yanmar. If it's the hydraulic pump for the 3pt - how hard is that to replace?
Thanks again for the great info.

 

[Rebeldad1]

1) if its something you really like ..... come to an agreement on a price. hold off paying for it.
offer to take it home for a couple weeks and try to get an idea whats wrong and whats it going to cost.

if it works out pay the offered price. if it doesnt you will return it.

This should be good for both of you. Tractor isnt any good to either of you untill there is answers.

2). Ask him to take it to the nearest dealer and get a estimate on repairs. Out of his pocket.

 

[CoyPatton]

3-point is a different issue than the driveline. Maybe a $300 hydraulic pump, or else a teardown of the lifting mechanism on the top/rear of the transmission - an afternoon of labor and $50 ??? parts.

With milky hydraulic fluid, it is possible the hydraulic fluid is a large part of the problem with both systems. If that slimy milky fluid has gotten into the suction screen and filter if equipped, that could explain a poorly functioning 3PH as well as the slimy milky fluid interfering with the power shift.
If either the implements can be sold or you want them for yourself, it sounds like for not much expense and some labor, you could have a nice tractor.
On a side know the ym2210 gets high praise from Aaron on Hoye models to avoid. It being his top pick if a tractor if he could only have 1. Check his models to avoid on their site to get his exact word choice.

 

[California]

1) if its something you really like ..... come to an agreement on a price. hold off paying for it.
offer to take it home for a couple weeks and try to get an idea whats wrong and whats it going to cost.

if it works out pay the offered price. if it doesnt you will return it.

2). Ask him to take it to the nearest dealer and get a estimate on repairs. Out of his pocket.

Good strategy if the seller agrees. Tell him he'll get it back with fresh fluid and the trans filter cleaned, a net benefit to him. Maybe other minor repairs too - fuel filter etc.

2). There aren't any dealers who will touch these YM's that preceded Yanmar-USA's return to the US 10 years ago. Just importers and not many of them do more than minimal warranty work on what they sold. These are owner-maintained. This works because the YM Yanmars from around 1980 are simple and bulletproof, obviously designed to be owner-maintained. Not much more complicated than bicycle maintenance. Maybe comparable to an 8N Ford in (lack of) complexity from the owner's perspective, sophisticated design that looks simple as you maintain it.


Coy - Yes that would be great if cleaning the hydraulic intake filter restores the 3-point lift. And it's likely that it will. Just another 50/50 gamble.

 

[Florida_Farmer]

OK - based on the comments - I just bought it for 1500 with the implements. I'll be sure to let you guys know how it turns out. I really appreciate the good feedback - CoyPatton - it was the Aaron at Hoye comment that tipped the scales for me - he's been a great resource in the past when I've had questions. Also - I'm an old Missouri guy - sorry about the redbirds getting bumped out. I was on highway 67 just out of Poplar Bluff headed north to St. Charles in 1985 when Ozzie put a homer over the wall in game 5 to win the series against the dodgers - people were pulling off the road and jumping around like they had lost their minds!

 

[California]

Yay!!

 

[CoyPatton]

OK - based on the comments - I just bought it for 1500 with the implements. I'll be sure to let you guys know how it turns out. I really appreciate the good feedback - CoyPatton - it was the Aaron at Hoye comment that tipped the scales for me - he's been a great resource in the past when I've had questions. Also - I'm an old Missouri guy - sorry about the redbirds getting bumped out. I was on highway 67 just out of Poplar Bluff headed north to St. Charles in 1985 when Ozzie put a homer over the wall in game 5 to win the series against the dodgers - people were pulling off the road and jumping around like they had lost their minds!

It has been a while since I read just how Aaron stated that I recently sent that article to my son encouraging him to check out a 2210 in NC. It sold before he moved on it. i now do not remember the price but had a loader and supposedly all working around $4500.

As for the birds, the
Owners and management seem to be extremely please with a team that almost performs. With so much of mlb including the cards going all out for blm and their terrorist actions, I have not kept up with games at all this year.
On a sad note related to the cards, Bob Gibson passed in just the last few days. Those guys from that era are dropping fast.