TN75S With loader problem

[Soundguy]

I'm so used to buying old stuff.. that I don't even know what a warranty would be like1 (GRIN) It does however. at least till we hear otherwise, that the dealer is at least trying to make good on the recon claim, as he has now worked (working) on it a second time.

Soundguy

 

[rback33]

I'm so used to buying old stuff.. that I don't even know what a warranty would be like1 (GRIN) It does however. at least till we hear otherwise, that the dealer is at least trying to make good on the recon claim, as he has now worked (working) on it a second time.

Soundguy

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LOL.. and I see you are playing nice over here... I wasn't about to jump in between you and Farmwithjunk in that other thread...

 

[Soundguy]

To be fair.. i was playing nice over there as well. When other posters want to call names, and throw insults and get nasty.. i just ignore them. I like tractors too much to get nasty about them.

I've seen plenty of tractors. We've all heard the cacl horror stories. I've pesonally seen a couple rims 100% gone from cacl.. I've seen many pitted but serviceable rims.. and I've seen lots of good ones. My point was that using CACL was not a 100% death sentence for a rim.. I never said there was -0- problems. i said there were no inherent flaws with cacl. it's good cheap ballast. It does happen to be corrosive.. for that reason, you just try to keep things as clean as you can, and keep maintenance up. and go from there. They are after all.. work machines. You can't expect them to work hard and stay pretty and last with no wear.. forever.

That was my point. unfortunately, some people can't see past their own concepts.. that is.. it's their way or the highway. If I've learned anything in this world.. -nothing is absolute- ( not even that statement ).. (grin) There is always another side of a coin.. and if you see 100 bad experiences on a problem.. if you dig enough.. you can see 100 other sides that were not a problem.

If someone has a rim eaten by CACL.. the story gets spread.. however no one logs in and posts " well.. my rim has not ben eaton by cacl ".. I.E. you hear the bad stories.. not the good stories.

As i mentioned int he other post. I've seen Lots of other tractor corrosion problems other than the rims.. batteries being the worst I've seen. Am I saying that batteries are the wost? or that batteries are worse than rim corrosion.. NO.. I'm saying the worst _Ive SEEN_ were those I've mentioned.

We all live in different areas, use our tractors differently, get them from different palces, and maintain them differently, in different environments. It does not surprise me to see some peopl have bad probelms and other people with no problems concerning the same issue.

It's the absolute ( I MUST BE CORRECT ) attitude that some of the posters adopt that makes me back out of the conversation. I'd rather have fun and talk.. not talk to a wall or a mule.. which by the way.. may hold a more even conversation that some o fthe membership with the "I'm right-everyone else is wrong" attitudes..

Past that.. the casual slurs and character assanation just isn't called for. This is suposed to be a polite web community... no place for character assanation here...

Soundguy

 

[jimmysisson]

If someone has a rim eaten by CACL.. the story gets spread.. however no one logs in and posts " well.. my rim has not ben eaton by cacl ".. I.E. you hear the bad stories.. not the good stories.

Soundguy

Hey, I've got a 1993 Ford 2120 that's had CaCl in the rears since new; same tubes, same tires, no rust showing. With the rose thorns I mow over, I'm aware there might be some little leaks that haven't made it to the surface. Soundguy's right - I never thought to post about having no problem there.
OTOH, my old 135 Massey had blisters from calcium rust on the rear rims when I sold it. Fair enough- probably 25 years on the tires and rims, a good long life.
I guess the harsh words for CaCl is that rims (and tires, since you'll often replace a pair before their time when doing new rims) are so expensive and disruptive, probably more so than a battery problem. I agree batteries are much more often corroding our tractors.

 

[JerryG]

Here I go.
I have seen lots of tractors with rusted out wheels from calcium. BUT, I have also seen lots of tractors that are 30, 40, 50 years old that have near perfect wheels that have had calcium in the the whole time.

 

[RickB]

The bottom line for me on the CaCl issue is if you have a slow leak that is not repaired, the rim will rot out quickly. No leaks, no significant problems. It is really that simple.

 

[ThePunisher]

Good points - some of my rants were coming from the fact that we just got the darn thing and the loader wouldn't even stay up while we were driving across the yard We couldn't afford new, so this was the best we could do.
I do know that leased is not as good as bought and then traded, but we do know the guy that had it since new, so I'm not that worried about it.
Anyways, thanks for the advice.

To be fair..i think you are making a few asumptions.. and taking a few comments out of context.

1, I believe all the big 3 units are pretty much equal in build quality. That is.. I expect a green one, blue one, red one, and orange one all to be top notch in engineering quality.

2, The hours issue / i/4 life / bull. i think you are still expecting too much. that is.. you have a machine with 2200 hours, and you -don't- think it should have any wear in those hours? That's asking alot... 4ys and 2200 hrs. that was a 'daily driver' machine. Common to see deisels run 8000 - 10000 hours or more before being ready for a rebuild. I think the 1/4 life comment was at least, close to the mark.

3, leased / rental unit = Drive it like you don't own it. On 2 otherwise equal machines.. i'd much prefer to own a '1 owner' unit than a leased unit. Leased units see all ranges of user use and abuse, and all levels of user experience.

I didn't see anywhere that the previous poster said the old loader technology was better.. he said the geometry was different and may have had longer cyls. You are misquoting him a bit.

Now.. you bought a used tractor. it still sounds like a decent unit to me.. just has a few bumps and bruises. Sounds like the dealer is trying to make it right by working on it 2x times now.

Recon does not mean 'perfect'. If ya wanted a perfect one.. ya shoulda bought new.

Soundguy

 

[mscott]

Hope you get your loader problem fixed. Seeing your dealer is concerned like he is I'm quite sure he will get it fixed. Should'nt be that big a deal probably an o-ring or two. I'm in the market for a bigger machine and hope there is a fix because i'll probably go for something like a TN75. I'm sure theres lots of 2200 hour TN'S that still operate the same as they did when new.

 

[Soundguy]

Here I go.
I have seen lots of tractors with rusted out wheels from calcium. BUT, I have also seen lots of tractors that are 30, 40, 50 years old that have near perfect wheels that have had calcium in the the whole time.

Yep.. My 52' 8n had loaded tires up until 2 ys ago whrn i had a flat. the tires were the originals!! and cacl loade.. tire and tube just gave out one day while setting there.. Rims were absolutely spotless.

As rickb said.. if ya got leaks.. ya got to expect problems.. no leaks.. and you may not have problems.

Soundguy