Tooth Bar options?

[Kep1a]

What tooth bar is best for the rocky terrain of Southern AZ. I have a small Montana 2840 working at an elevation 4960 so the power on a normally aspirated 4cyl is a bit lower than the rated HP.

I wont be able to damage any I have looked at but I'm leaning to the wicked tooth bar from Everything Attachments. I also like the one from Heavy Hitch but think it may be a bit aggressive for my tractor to effectively use. I looked at the Piranha one and it didn't really look like it would work as well as the Wicked from EA. Thoughts? Other options?

 

[Kep1a]

Not really looking for a cutting edge wanting a tooth bar for breaking up the ground and for better penetration into piles of dirt and rocks.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Here is a link for a regular type tooth bar. Just look up your size that will fit your bucket.

Neat Farms | Neat Attachments - Tooth Bar

Buy Online Tooth Bar For Loader Bucket at eezs.com

www.neatfarms.com

I have one on my 66" bucket and it works really well for breaking up the hard dry ground here in NM.

 

[Kep1a]

That looks interesting but I think the EA one may be more versatile. Going to need to do more research.

 

[lennyzx11]

I’ve been happy with my piranha toothbar since 2015. We grew rocks in Oklahoma and now in Vermont. And I’m not real gentle with it.

 

[newbury]

I've two Piranha's and they are excellent - for soil, sand, gravel.
I would NOT recommend them for rocky soils.

 

[DieselBound]

I got a tooth bar from my Kubota dealer for my B7800.

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I've torn through some nasty stuff with that. LOTS of back-dragging: literally raising the front end up in the air! (yes, NOT recommended, but the B7800 is indestructible- not kidding) Only popped it off once and that was spinning a massive tree trunk by one of the end teeth: I bent the bar, had to beat the snot out of it with a big sledge to straighten it back out (been a long time since then). I highly doubt that anything else could have begun to handle the abuse that I've put this bar through.

Oh yeah, the picture is a rescue of my trapped Kioti, which was pinned in a dead end by a dump trailer that was sliding off into the abyss. Payback from the Kubota for the Kioti having rescued it from a deep stuck.

 

[BackRoad]

I've got a 72" EA. It's their Hardox product, so solid, reasonably light weight for its strength, and does a great job in my mixed clay and rock soil.

It will dig...

I would buy it again without question, although be mentally prepared to wait a couple of months between your order/payment and receipt of the blade.

Others complain about payment up-front and the wait.

For me, it was worth it for a product that my kids should inherit 30 years from now...

 

[Kep1a]

On my land there is no caliche it is a mix of hard pack and rock.

 

[jjp8182]

Another option (if you can find a nearby dealer for them) is W.R. Long: W.R. Long, Inc. | Tarboro, NC ....I believe EA also carries/ships W.R. Long products (or did at one point if they don't currently).

I bought a W.R. Long bucket with one their tooth bar designs for digging in clay and it's worked well. I particularly like that the teeth are basically 1" shanks holding replaceable (pin-on) cutting teeth, but the whole tooth bar still uses a 2-bolt attachment method. Makes it easier to remove/replace things if/when needed vs. weld-on shanks or teeth.

The bucket design I bought has turned out to be a bit long for scooping out of piles of heavy materials (requires more curl power than my tractor has) -- but that's a tradeoff I made for getting a longer bottom bucket for digging across open areas (which it does well).

 

[Kep1a]

I think I am down to two options. The wicked tooth bar from Everything Attachments and the Piranha Tooth Bar. What is making me lean this way is the ability to clear overgrowth and pull out saplings. When it rains out here the over growth can be very problematic. I have a 1950s flail mower but that thing is a beast to attach.

This really cinched it for me.

 

[kenmbz]

I use the PTB to dig soil and diabase (soft iron rock) and pop rocks, and bushes out of the paths for use of the flail.
EA or PTB will make a world of difference.

 

[Buggs67]

I've had the BXpanded Piranha Tooth Bar for about 8 years and very happy with it. I saw a tread where a guy made his own but that was not an option for me. The BPT is cheaper than the EA unit.

For rocky soil I'd think a standard type tooth bar'd be better but I'm just guessing.

 

[MossyDell]

I have the PTB and would not want one heavier. I have a 25 hp Kubota and when a smaller tractor loses 50 lbs of lift to the tooth bar, it can feel significant. I LIKE my PTB and believe it helps, on balance. But the EA bar is much heavier, as I recall. The PTB is plenty strong. Can't hurt it. Would not want more weight.

 

[Kep1a]

Weight is a good point to take note of. Will check that out for sure.
Just checked and a 66" is about 55# for the piranha bar vs 66# for the Wicked both were estimates but I was told they are very close to quoted weights for the 66" bars. I doubt 16# will change much but it is something to consider.

 

[MossyDell]

Sounds like I was wrong and the EA bar is not that much heavier than the Piranha. I like the bar in the original post, has that gnarly old school look!

 

[EverythingAttachments]

WICKED Toothbar loves rocks!

Aaaaand it is freakishly STRONG(don't try at home )
Travis

 

[Smokeydog]

Had a regular toothbar with teeth on a L3800 OEM bucket. Just not strong enough to work effectively. Terrible at back dragging.

Welded a special made Piranha tooth to a M59 well worn bucket Wow! What a difference digging in dirt/clay. Great clearing understory brush.

HD bucket on B26 has double bolt on cutting edge. Might be a good candidate for the wicked bar if could get the holes to line up.

 

[Kep1a]

ETA said unless I had 45 or more HP the bolts in the cutting edge are not needed.

 

[Kep1a]

I've seen numerous videos where the piranha tooth bar was clearing overgrowth. ETA how well does your bar do with over growth? Videos?