Tooth Bar WR Long vs. FFC

NY_Yankees_Fan · Aug 29, 2002

Looking for a 48" tooth bar for my Kubota BX2200, I have two prices, the FFC is $230 the WR Long is $259, shipping is about the same, both have replaceable teeth. Any difference between the two? what do you have? WR Long does not have a web site, but Carver has info on his site http://www.carverequipment.com/tooth_bars.htm
FFC web site is http://www.ffcattachments.com/cdrom/buckets/BK12.htm

Thanks

Tom

GarageSmoker · Aug 29, 2002

I have the one from Carver. Couldn't be more pleased.

GS

Gary_in_Indiana · Aug 29, 2002

I have an FFC for my Deere 60" loader bucket and they must have thought I had a 58 1/2" bucket. While I didn't need it to fit snugly I thought this was a little too much to allow for "play" or "centering." I didn't want to mess around with returning it and all that would entail so I just bought 1 1/2" worth of flat washers. I'm not saying you couldn't get an FFC that fit perfectly but I was disappointed with mine.

okiedba · Aug 29, 2002

I've got the one from Carver also. Fit is very good. They knew the loader/bucket but still asked for an exact measurement. I am very impressed with the function/uses for a tooth bar.

Maxwell · Aug 30, 2002

I ordered my WR Long toothbar from Carver and got it after six days even through they said it would take three weeks. There was room for just one washer to fit in between the toothbar and the bucket. I really like it. Nice workmanship.

If you need help installing it, here is what I did. I went to Home Depot and bought the extra washer (the toothbar just came with the two for the outside). I also picked up a 3/4" hole saw called the "Aggressor" by BLU-MOL and a 3/8" hole saw mandel with intergrated 1/4" drill bit in the center. Just position the bucket at a comfortable working level. Put the waher in between the toothbar and the bucket. Line up by banging with a rubber mallet. When the washer is properly aligned, trace the inside circle with a felt tip pen. Remove toothbar and washer and punch a starting dimple for accuracy. Begin drilling. In about five minutes, you can have both holes drilled and the toothbar bolted on. Enjoy!

NY_Yankees_Fan · Aug 30, 2002

Max,

Thanks for the info! You just cut the installation time in half. I was wondering how I was going to get it on!

Tom

rancar · Aug 31, 2002

Here's a pic of my FFC extra HD toothbar on my JD HD bucket. This has tremendous digging ability. I'm not at all concerned about these teeth or shanks breaking...they are so massive.

Bob

Carl_NH · Sep 2, 2002

Bob,

I have been looking at these on Carvers site and they specifically state tooth bars don't work on HD buckets with removable/bolt on cutting edges like I have on my B21TLB.

Now I see yours has essentially the same setup as mine. Can you provide some feedback on this and the rough cost? My bucket is the HD 56".

Carl

frank_f15 · Sep 2, 2002

i got yhe wr long from carver, delivered in less than a week and fit, perfectly. great attachment for certain jobs.

jyoutz · Sep 3, 2002

I have an FFC that fits my 49" bucket perfectly. But when I ordered it, I gave them exact measurements of my inside bucket width and thickness of bucket edge.

rancar · Sep 3, 2002

Hi Carl....

I initially ordered a plain old heavy duty tooth bar. Cost was $316. When I also ordered the HD 72" bucket with bolt on cutting edge, the dealer then informed me that the plain old HD tooth bar won't fit. FFC makes a custom made EXTRA heavy duty tooth bar that fits HD buckets with removable cutting edges. The cost was an extra $85 or a total of $401.

Bob

B7500 · Sep 3, 2002

I just recieved my toothbar from Carver. Long does an outstanding job of making it to order. I just hope I can drill the bucket on my B7500 easily.

Carl_NH · Sep 4, 2002

Thanks for the feedback - I checked the FFC site and found the page for the XHD toothbars. Now to call them. I might ask them for a $ on a set of removable pallet forks too, since they seem to build to fit and with the tooth bar and forks they need to be in sync re thickness from my view.

Carl

Gary_in_Indiana · Sep 4, 2002

Carl,

When you call them, could you ask about pallet forks for the regular duty tooth bar over an fixed cutting edge Deere bucket and let me know what they want for those? Thanks. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

NY_Yankees_Fan · Sep 4, 2002

An update…… I placed an order with Carver for the tooth bar. It was a few extra $$ but I figured if it does not fit I can send it back. With FFC I had to measure the bucket and lip. The Massey dealer said if it was wrong it was not his problem, local Kubota dealer was even more $$ then Carver sooo I figure its not worth the headache!

Carver said it should ship next week, will see soon I guess.

Tom

rancar · Sep 4, 2002

Carl...

The boys at FFC are old farmers by trade and they do just about any kind of custom work that you may have in mind. So, it's likely they could build you whatever kind of pallet forks you have in mind. You may have to draw up a schematic with dimensions of what you want, but if they can build forks like they do these toothbars you won't be disappointed.

Bob

John_Mc · Sep 8, 2002

<font color=blue>I just hope I can drill the bucket on my B7500 easily.</font color=blue>

Drill a 1/8" pilot hole, then use the appropriate sized (3/4" in my case) hole saw with a bi-metal cutting edge. The teeth were pretty good sized in the hole saw I used, so I had doubts about them cutting the metal in my bucket, but it worked very well (didn't even run out the battery on my 18V cordless drill). A whole lot less work than using a standard drill bit.

Tips:
(1) cutting oil dripped on occasionally during drilling works wonders.
(2)Be prepared to file, grind, or otherwise deburr the hole (after drilling, I realized I could have helped the situation by drilling halfway through, then switching over to finish the hole from the other side... the pilot hole should keep things lined up OK)
(3) seat the tothbar by putting it on the edge, then pressing the teeth into the ground ... it does a whole lot better than trying to push it on by hand-power alone.

John Mc