Unbelieveable - small rant on snowblower

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#61  
If you don't want to know how to replace the gearbox on this blower, skip this post now :)

Stumper, again, sorry to hear about your misfortune. According to Meteor there is no problem. I was told they sold over 600 of these blowers last year and only 4 gearboxes. Well, I've got 2 of those 4 gearboxes so in my mind something is wrong. I hate to say it but I also think you'll be VERY hard pressed to get any kind of warranty deal. That seems very hard to do when you're talking about a piece of "ground/snow engaging equipment". But I wish you the best.

Removing/replacing the gearbox the FIRST time is always hardest b/c when it's assembled at the factory they obviously do not use any kind of anti-seize and the parts tend to stick/rust together. Yer gonna need some patience, blocks of wood, pry bar and probably a big hammer :)

I left the blower attached to the tractor b/c it helps hold things steady.

First is obviously disconnect the PTO from the tractor. Tie or sling it up to keep it off the ground but keep it moveable.

Now on the blower end remove the 1/4" bolt that goes through the PTO and blower input shaft. Then remove the little grub screw the "holds" the alignment key. Now the fun part. Use a pry bar/block of wood/mallet etc to get the PTO shaft off the blower input shaft. I hope yours comes off nicely. My first one was a bear. You may want to freely apply some WD-40 or similar ahead of time to help loosen up any rusty - sticky items. Let it soak a while and your life will hopefully be easier :) Be gentle, but firm.

Now you've got the PTO off the blower the next step is to remove the chain drive. You must do this now so you don't damage it when yanking on the gearbox.
Remove the 3 bolts holding the cover on over the chain drive shaft.
Loosen the chain tensioner, lift the tensioner all the way up to allow full slack in the chain.
Remove the 1" #2 shear bolt that connects the chain drive shaft and sproket.
Remove the 3 bolts holding the chain drive shaft bearing. Be careful with this area, you don't want to damage the bearing or get it dirty. The chain drive shaft is now still in place, but free to move when you need it to.

Whether you want to remove the auger is up to you. Yes, it adds some steps to the process, but will make your life easier and probably actually save you time. Otherwise you have to fit and fight the fan over/around the auger. I've done it both ways and it's much easier to remove the auger.

To remove the auger simply remove the 4 bolts on each end holding the bearing assemblies. Again, be careful to be nice to your bearings and keep them clean and undamaged. The bearing plates will swivel a bit to enable you to finagle the auger out. Looking at the back of the tractor pull the left side down and out a bit first. The bolts on the right side are a bear b/c the chain sprocket is in the way and keeps them just barely sticking in their mounting holes. But w/ patience and gentle coaxing you can get them out. Then push the right side forward and slip the chain over the auger and off. Be sure when reassembling you make sure your zerks are located properly. Note the position before you take it apart. Also remember to coax/swivel/wiggle when putting the right side back in to get the bolts back in their holes. Obviously put the chain back on too and put the right side back in first.

The next part depends on where you gearbox or shaft broke. I'm betting your fan shaft broke and you can check this by trying to remove the fan w/out removing the 5/16 bolt that holds the fan on. With some decent pulling it may slide right out of the gear box. If not, remove the 5/16 bolt and lock washer and start pulling, prying, yanking, swearing etc. It will come, but it's gonna take a while w/ lots of pulling and wiggling.

Once the fan is off simply remove the 4 bolts that hold the gearbox mounted to the blower. Now push or pull or otherwise nudge the gearbox out. Gently though b/c your chain drive shaft is still attached and you don't want to damage its bearing. Once the gearbox is basically all the way out you can slide the chain drive shaft off the gearbox shaft. It's splined and there's no screws or anything on it. It just pulls off.

Re-assembly is just the reverse. But be sure to add plenty of never-seize where you need it when re-assembling. Also, once you get the chain drive shaft and gearbox back in I'd suggest re-assembling the chain drive shaft bearing right way so it doesn't get damaged.

If your fan shaft did indeed break and the rest of the gearbox is in good shape still AND you can find one replacing the fan shaft is about half the cost of a gearbox. There's really nothing to the gearbox once you open it up. But if you do buy a new gearbox be sure to add gear oil before use. The gearbox does NOT ship w/ oil in it.

If you have questions let me know.
 
   / Unbelieveable - small rant on snowblower #62  
Thanks for the detailed explanation. Very well written and obviously by an experienced owner(the best kind)
 
   / Unbelieveable - small rant on snowblower #63  
thanks for the input ranger! i overnighted the box monday and already got it up and going. believe it or not i had the box out in about 10 min the impellar slid off so east it was scary. the one thing i rememberd is i tightened up my top link right before it broke tilting the top of the blower back to help keep it from digging in to the partially frozen ground. it put a bit more drive shaft angle than i initally realized which may have been my problem. my box looks exactly like your box number 2 with the broken case.
 
   / Unbelieveable - small rant on snowblower #64  
Thanks for the detailed explanation. Very well written and obviously by an experienced owner(the best kind)

More like an experienced gear box changer owner :)
 
   / Unbelieveable - small rant on snowblower #65  
SR, those rear pull blowers seem really nice. Out of curiosity, what do they run?
 
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#66  
SR, those rear pull blowers seem really nice. Out of curiosity, what do they run?

As I said, Josh at Erskine was very polite and helpful. He said they actually have some play in the prices depending on what steel is going for when the units are built. With very little haggling I was quoted a 78" rear-pull blower SHIPPED TO MY HOUSE for $4,900. The 60" would have been a little less, but I would have waited for one to be built.
 
   / Unbelieveable - small rant on snowblower #67  
Little late on this and sure do understand your frustration. I would be livid, glad to see you handling it as well as you are.

I wondered if there is another brand of gear box with a higher rating that would fit your machine? Of course you are up and running but it would be helpful if others run into the same problem. Gear boxes are somewhat universal and you can often see different boxes on the same brand equipment. I would not be surprised if this batch of boxes were an effort to keep the prices down on the blowers as metal and manufacturing prices increased in the last couple of years.

Might be interesting to compare the serial numbers on your blower and Stumpers to see how close to the same build time they had.

MarkV
 
   / Unbelieveable - small rant on snowblower #68  
Sorry to hear about your trouble's with your snow blower. I also have a 60"meteor I bought used about 5 years ago it was a couple of years old then, other than two or three shear bolts a year have never had any problem's. At times we do get a bit of snow around here although right now it is mostly all gone again.
 

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Little late on this and sure do understand your frustration. I would be livid, glad to see you handling it as well as you are.

I wondered if there is another brand of gear box with a higher rating that would fit your machine? Of course you are up and running but it would be helpful if others run into the same problem. Gear boxes are somewhat universal and you can often see different boxes on the same brand equipment. I would not be surprised if this batch of boxes were an effort to keep the prices down on the blowers as metal and manufacturing prices increased in the last couple of years.

Might be interesting to compare the serial numbers on your blower and Stumpers to see how close to the same build time they had.

MarkV

I've thought of that. But from what I've looked at so far in order to raise the "power rating" you have to use bigger parts/shafts which generally makes the gear box bigger. A bigger gearbox will not fit in the blower. The gearbox has a very defined little space it fits into. We'll see what happens I guess...
 
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Well, the tractor/blower are at the dealer this morning. Meteor wanted the set up inspected by them to see if they see anything. Fingers crossed :)
 

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