Unhooking pto with engine off?

[Elcid76]

Over 20 years ago I got trapped in a bailer discharge chute on a 105 degree kansas day. As I stood there trying to figure out HOW to get the chute off my forearm, I remember thinking that it sure would be a lot less stressful if I had shut that darned tractor off (a green-acres vintage Allis) before getting "attached" to the assembly.
The "deal" I made with myself that day was to ALWAYS shut the tractor off when getting near the PTO. A simple rule. It works for me. Remember, safety can be thought of as the reduction of "ingredients" that may add together to make a result more painful. It is all a personal choice, I have made mine. The key is always off when I touch the PTO.

 

[90cummins]

My Ford 1720 PTO is engaged mechanical by the operator and the possibility of it engaging is the same as it slipping into a forward gear while with no one is in the operator痴 seat. It's also unlikely to intentionally engage the PTO without depressing the clutch due to grinding of the slip collar.
My neighbors Kubota on the other hand is electrically operated, that I don't trust running!!

Tim

 

[Soundguy]

Over 20 years ago I got trapped in a bailer discharge chute on a 105 degree kansas day. .

working on 'powered' equipment is dangerous... i don't think anyone here is advocating that.

trying to clear a blockage on a running grain auger or bailer while it is running , using a body part, well.. is dangerous. I don't think you will get any argument there as to sticking hands into running equipment.

soundguy

 

[foggy1111]

working on 'powered' equipment is dangerous... i don't think anyone here is advocating that.

trying to clear a blockage on a running grain auger or bailer while it is running , using a body part, well.. is dangerous. I don't think you will get any argument there as to sticking hands into running equipment.

soundguy

I've been sorta following this thread from time to time....and the one I originally started on hooking up a PTO with the engine running.

Soundguy.....You say you have no dog in this hunt....but you continue to debate the merits of hooking up equipment with the Engine running....and advise that you can do so safely. BUT TO ME....YOU IMPLY THAT OTHERS CAN DO IT SAFELY TOO IF THEY FOLLOW YOUR SOUND ADVICE. After all.....you are a long-time "epic" contributor. You should know.....right? I mean lots of people trust your advice....and you post allot. Right?

HOWEVER....not everyone here has your background or equipment models. For many folks with late-model, electric-switched PTO's (a high percentage of folks coming here for advice)....coupling a PTO is more dangerous due to the kind of equipment which THEY may have.

Also, some of these new operators are much better off to err on the side of caution. It's not always about YOU or YOUR equipment. Get it?

 

[Soundguy]

I've been sorta following this thread from time to time....and the one I originally started on hooking up a PTO with the engine running. ?

No.. apparrently you HAVE NOT been following it.

Soundguy.....You say you have no dog in this hunt....but you continue to debate the merits of hooking up equipment with the PTO running?

NOOOO! I have not in any way said to hookup equipment with the PTO RUNNING.

NEVER SAID to touch a spinning shaft.

....and advise that you can do so safely. BUT TO ME....YOU IMPLY THAT OTHERS CAN DO IT SAFELY TOO IF THEY FOLLOW YOUR SOUND ADVICE. After all.....you are a long-time "epic" contributor. You should know.....right? I mean lots of people trust your advice....and you post allot. Right?

......... Get it?

You need to quit worrying about my stats and start worrying about reading closer!!

soundguy

 

[Short Game]

I became a short-haired old hippie about the third time I got my braids in a drill or angle grinder, thankful to not have been seriously injured. Rotating machinery is a potential hazard.

Like I said on the previous thread, I will trust a PTO that must be clutched and manually shifted in to stay disengaged. I will not trust two wires to not find an alternate current path.

 

[foggy1111]

OK....I meant to say with the Engine running. Not the PTO running. My mistake.

However your stats are my point. People follow advice of long-time posters....and I feel you have a responsibility to post sound advice.

For not having a dog in this hunt.....I think you may have dispensed more posts on this issue than any other. :confused2:

Just like our last "debate" where you took a position that ethylene glycol is good to use for tire ballast. And, defended it to the end. Geeesh. :confused2:

 

[Soundguy]

it is a good tire ballast.

non corrosice, adds weight, won't freeze.

just don't drink it.

As fort he pto deal. like many other posters in this thread. we are just relating what 'WE' do.

I don't expect ANYONE to be a clone of me.. nor do i think they SHOULD be a clone of me.. everyone is an individual. JHTfarmer is the one that wants people to be a clone of him and think the way he thinks and do what he does.

I'm all for individual choice.

do what you feel ok doing, just be aware of the risks. IE.. Informed decisions.

that's 'sound' advice.

my no dog/hunt comment means I don't *care* what other people do. I'm not trying to convince someone to hook it up *my* way.. or *NOT* hook it up my way... I can assure you i have probably 'dispensed' WAY more posts on WAY more topics besdies this one...

if any of them bother you.. add me to your ignore list... that's the simple answer if my point of view is anti to your being.

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

OK....I meant to say with the Engine running. Not the PTO running. My mistake.

And that's a HUGE difference...


soundguy

 

[RoyJackson]

I'd written earlier...if you get into a habit of shutting the engine down and hooking or unhooking a PTO shaft...then it won't matter if it's a mechanical or electrical engagement. Mine is mechanical, BTW.
You guys do it however you want...and, if the worst happens, we'll change your screen name to "Stubby".