Price Check Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510

   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510
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#21  
Yes. exactly. Kubota's TLBs are not a true commercial machine, but tending that way and more heavily built throughout. That is what makes them more expensive than tractors with add-on loaders and backhoes, and the higher price is why you see fewer TLBs than Tractors. On the TLB, the backhoe is standard and the 3pt hitch is an attachment. On tractors it's the other way around.

Sounds like the guy knew what he was doing. His work seems more landscaping than growing crops or gardening, so he got the right tool for the work you describe even if it did cost more.

Does his backhoe have the hydraulic thumb option? If so, there's the price difference right there.

Thanks for the input. No hydraulic thumb. That being said, I put out a small garden every year so I use a 5 foot 3pt tiller. Is a B26 ok for that kind of usage? I plan to do a lot of straightening up on my 6 acres property and maybe even expand my pond. I also bush hog about 2 acres of grass a couple of times each season....
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510
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Can you see yourself using a backhoe?
That's easily worth the difference.
And the TLB is a more rugged machine.

Thanks newbury. I will definitely make use of the backhoe for expanding my pond and trenches, etc
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510 #23  
seen your other thread and responded, I would go with the B26, I have not used a tiller on mine but I did break up a small garden spot for the wife using the backhoe.
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510 #24  
Then B26 is what I would call a construction grade machine. A much stronger back hoe and end loader compared to a regular tractor. The end loader is not removable if that matters. I don’t know what they go for used but it sounds like a good deal.
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510
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Then B26 is what I would call a construction grade machine. A much stronger back hoe and end loader compared to a regular tractor. The end loader is not removable if that matters. I don’t know what they go for used but it sounds like a good deal.

Thanks Dave! Appreciate that info! Commercial grade will likely last many more years!
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510 #26  
A B26 will last a homeowner a lifetime...Super rugged and well built heavy little tractor.
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510
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#27  
Yes. exactly. Kubota's TLBs are not a true commercial machine, but tending that way and more heavily built throughout. That is what makes them more expensive than tractors with add-on loaders and backhoes, and the higher price is why you see fewer TLBs than Tractors. On the TLB, the backhoe is standard and the 3pt hitch is an attachment. On tractors it's the other way around.

Sounds like the guy knew what he was doing. His work seems more landscaping than growing crops or gardening, so he got the right tool for the work you describe even if it did cost more.

Does his backhoe have the hydraulic thumb option? If so, there's the price difference right there.

After reviewing the pics of the machine, it does have the hydraulic mechanical thumb on the backhoe unit. How much value does that add to the machine overall?
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510 #28  
After reviewing the pics of the machine, it does have the hydraulic mechanical thumb on the backhoe unit. How much value does that add to the machine overall?

Usually a mechanical thumb is a fixed thumb that can’t be moved from the machine. A hydraulic thumb is the best thing that ever happened to a backhoe and they’re a several thousand dollar option new.
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510 #29  
Thanks for the input. No hydraulic thumb. That being said, I put out a small garden every year so I use a 5 foot 3pt tiller. Is a B26 ok for that kind of usage? I plan to do a lot of straightening up on my 6 acres property and maybe even expand my pond. I also bush hog about 2 acres of grass a couple of times each season....

They’re not great 3 point hitch machines. They’re geared slow and the non removable loader isn’t great for mowing but they’ll handle the work just fine.
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510
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Usually a mechanical thumb is a fixed thumb that can稚 be moved from the machine. A hydraulic thumb is the best thing that ever happened to a backhoe and they?*e a several thousand dollar option new.

Sorry about the mixup in terms. It is definitely the hydraulic thumb. That will be great for moving brush, stumps, rocks, etc
 
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   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510 #32  
You are gonna analyze this until someone comes along and writes a check for that B26.

yep if I didn't already have a B26 I might have to take a trip. :stirthepot:
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510 #34  
Same here. Just paid near 20K for an LX without backhoe.
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510 #35  
It depends on the use. Tractors are a little different than most tools. You can think of it this way: The Kioti has a warranty because it has not been proven in use.
With 275 hours on the Kubota, that machine is proven to work exactly as it is doing now and can be expected to continue doing so for thousands of hours - but only if the owner is the kind of person who you would want to buy something used from.

I buy most tools and equipment used, always have.... and am always on the lookout for good used tools. The ones that I pursue are sought after models at the top of their price range because of their good condition. The downside is that it does take a few years to know if a machine is going to become a "classic" or "sought after model". The B26 is such a model.

My experience is that on sought after models, a knowledgeable owner can put a few hundered hours on a machine and - with the aid of his warranty if needed - actually make it better than something unknown but brand new. It's worth asking why is he selling and also take a look at the state of the rest of his machinery. Past that, the one to interest me would have a complete set of owner's manuals, maintenance records of some sort, maybe some other literature, tools, spares, or accessories. All those are reallygood signs.

If something used is priced "at the market or below" frankly I simply avoid it. I don't even go look. The reason being that most of the time those are things being sold because the owner didn't like them. I'm looking for something that is being sold for a completely different reason. And I never object to paying top dollar because I'm looking for a classic model in top condition.

Does that reasoning apply to your friend's used B26? I don't know. How does the rest of his equipment look? And why is he selling? The answer to those two questions would be what would make my decision - not the price or the hours.
rScotty

Exact same philosophy I applied when buying my original owner 250.9 hour Kubota L48 TLB last year.
I think I could sell my L48 for several thousand more than I paid a year ago.
An equipment knowledgeable friend says I "stole it" (it was not stolen).
It does look very close to new though, and it has nice options!
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510 #36  
Mat, thanks for the input. It's almost like new. It hasn't been treated rough at all. Was purchased new by the owner and never used commercially.

I see the point about a new one being 38000. But a 10 year old unit for 24000? I feel like it should be around 21000

If I was buying used Id pay more for a well cared for machine with a known history.
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510 #37  
You are gonna analyze this until someone comes along and writes a check for that B26.

Yes indeed that's a sweet deal with the low hours and hyd thumb too - I would at least get a signed purchase and sale with a deposit on it now - and the bank might want you to put 20% down anyway.
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510
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If I was buying used Id pay more for a well cared for machine with a known history.

Good point, Mike. And as Im learning from all the guys on the forum, it seems I shouldnt be as caught up on the year of the machine as I am what you mentioned: the history of the machine. I seriously doubt this one was ever abused in any way!
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510 #39  
After reviewing the pics of the machine, it does have the hydraulic mechanical thumb on the backhoe unit. How much value does that add to the machine overall?

To avoid confusion, there is no such animal as a.... "hydraulic mechanical thumb".
A thumb can be either hydraulic, or mechanical....not both!
 
   / Used B26 TLB or New Kioti CK3510
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To avoid confusion, there is no such animal as a.... "hydraulic mechanical thumb".
A thumb can be either hydraulic, or mechanical....not both!

Agreed. I corrected myself somewhere previously

That being said, can a hydraulic thumb be added to the backhoe on a L3301? I think they also use the BH77 on them
 

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