Buying Advice Used JD 110 vs everything else
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Don't know... I do change backhoe buckets and I don't have the quick attach.
Doesn't take long... just not as convenient.
I find for my soil/projects the 18" is my bucket of choice... the 12" packs so tight I have to chisel the adobe soil to empty it and the 24" is just too big for my serpentine rock areas.
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Thought I would jump in here to clarify a few things, (since I know so much
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IIRC the 7200+ weight rating for the 110 is with a box blade on the rear.
With the backhoe configuration the weight is was listed as 7600.
Other add on such as heavy duty buckets and hydraulic options will add more weight to the base weight.
Removing the standard rops and installing the Laurin cab with ac adds about 500 to 600 lbs is my GUESS.
Without the front bucket, no box blade or backhoe the base 110 weighs roughly 5500 lbs.
I was confused about this 10 years ago and had to do some fact checking before I bought mine.
While the 110tlb is industrial yellow it was marketed through the green dealers not the industrial dealers. The green dealers are the ones to contact for parts/repair and support.
Having both a 4520 cab (2009) and a 110tlb with Laurin cab (2005) I can also verify that the telescopic hitch arms on a 4520 can be used on a 110tlb. That makes hooking up a heavy box blade a lot easier to do. The topntilt kit for a 110tlb and a 4520 is also the same, the upgraded stabilizers might be slightly different but is an easy retrofit.
The backhoe quick coupler is easy to install just unpin the pin on bucket and pin on the adaptor. Then you have to have the quick coupler buckets which are not cheap either.
If you plan on using the backhoe on a 110 don't fill the rear tires, not needed or recommended by Deere. You can fill the tires or add weights if the use is fel and 3ph use only. For loader use Deere recommends a 1200lb rear weight on the 3ph in lieu of the backhoe. The 84" 1260 lb. box blade (Gannon/Frontier) meets this requirement.
Just a suggestion but if you are working on job sites as I do plan on the 110 with buckets, forks and what not weighing in around 9000+ lbs. You need a trailer with a 10k payload to cover most scenarios.
)IIRC the 7200+ weight rating for the 110 is with a box blade on the rear.
With the backhoe configuration the weight is was listed as 7600.
Other add on such as heavy duty buckets and hydraulic options will add more weight to the base weight.
Removing the standard rops and installing the Laurin cab with ac adds about 500 to 600 lbs is my GUESS.
Without the front bucket, no box blade or backhoe the base 110 weighs roughly 5500 lbs.
I was confused about this 10 years ago and had to do some fact checking before I bought mine.
While the 110tlb is industrial yellow it was marketed through the green dealers not the industrial dealers. The green dealers are the ones to contact for parts/repair and support.
Having both a 4520 cab (2009) and a 110tlb with Laurin cab (2005) I can also verify that the telescopic hitch arms on a 4520 can be used on a 110tlb. That makes hooking up a heavy box blade a lot easier to do. The topntilt kit for a 110tlb and a 4520 is also the same, the upgraded stabilizers might be slightly different but is an easy retrofit.
The backhoe quick coupler is easy to install just unpin the pin on bucket and pin on the adaptor. Then you have to have the quick coupler buckets which are not cheap either.
If you plan on using the backhoe on a 110 don't fill the rear tires, not needed or recommended by Deere. You can fill the tires or add weights if the use is fel and 3ph use only. For loader use Deere recommends a 1200lb rear weight on the 3ph in lieu of the backhoe. The 84" 1260 lb. box blade (Gannon/Frontier) meets this requirement.
Just a suggestion but if you are working on job sites as I do plan on the 110 with buckets, forks and what not weighing in around 9000+ lbs. You need a trailer with a 10k payload to cover most scenarios.
jenkinsph
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You have to be ready when the good deals come up. I would buy a 110 only if it has all of the hydraulic options front and rear and a 7 function hoe. Without these options you loose too many of the benefits unique to the better tlb models.
I would add used Kubota L45 and M59 to the search too. All are good models imo. The M59 Kubota is a good 60hp tlb and would be perfect for my uses if I wanted a tractor and backhoe unit all rolled into one machine. Probably out of the budget but cheaper than multiple machines.
I would add used Kubota L45 and M59 to the search too. All are good models imo. The M59 Kubota is a good 60hp tlb and would be perfect for my uses if I wanted a tractor and backhoe unit all rolled into one machine. Probably out of the budget but cheaper than multiple machines.
If the hoe doesnt have a thumb or hydraulic hose connectors for a thumb etc., does that mean there isnt a plumbing for it on the tractor end? Im looking at one that has a top and tilt and hydraulic ripper teeth (i assume with the small switch on the joystick), so does that mean the plumbing is there for the thumb? Seller says its not plumbed for a thumb, but it has the top and tilt with rippers.
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How underpowered is the 110? Does the 42/33HP rating feel that low? Someone just mentioned putting a 7ft Gannon box blade on the back. Can the 110 actually handle the blade? My Massey is 47/36HP rated... And there are times when plowing, grading, and stump grinding when I start to run low on power (but in fairness, I tend to grade/disc in medium range HST, so staying in low would help)... In theory, could I replace my Massey with the 110 and have comparable power? Or is the 42/33 pretty accurate?
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The tractor can have 3 FEL functions and 3 rear SCV's. The joystick diverts the hyd functions back and forth as well as controlling the 3rd function on the loader.
Total hyd functions would then be six. As Steve mentioned, the thumb function on on the backhoe would be the 7th hyd connection.
So, just having the rear hyds (topntilt) would not necessarily mean that the tractor is plumbed for a thumb. It's been my experience if the hoe is plumbed for a thumb you can readily see the hard lines and the quick couplers on the top of the boom near the dipper stick.
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