Vaping, wow!

[Industrial Toys]

Maybe the only difference between then and now, is that when the desperation becomes too loud, you get out the AR! I shouldn't say, that because the incidences are so few as to be almost statistically non existant, (my guess) but the media hype sure makes it seem otherwise. And that, I'm sure is a good part of the whole problem.

Come to think of it, my sister and I did VAPE at an early age, smelling the gasoline filler at the side of the 67 FORD Custom 500. I'm sure my parents just smiled and found it amusing!

 

[Jstpssng]

justpissing, I find your tendancy to be every ones spell checker very off putting!

Would you care to point out when the last time was that I did that? I suspect that we will be waiting a long, long time. In IT's case I honestly believed that his spell check had made the change, else I never would have pointed it out. Fortunately for you the censor won't let me give an honest reply to you, but it would have been spelled correctly if I could do so.

 

[Industrial Toys]

If you are an aware, thinking sentient being, I'm afraid much of what your fellow human beings say and do, will be off-putting. Belief systems are never going to match up perfectly.

 

[Alan W.]

Perspective is a funny thing. Are people who wear glasses just too stupid to see without them?

Smokers and drug users are addicted to their habits. Yes I think they are choosing bad behaviours. The root cause issue is they have a physical addiction problem - and their addictions are being exploited by unscrupulous people.

I think the real blame should be on the drug pushers - the businesses of tobacco and big pharma. These businesses have reaped billions of dollars by exploiting people's physiological problems. Yet none of these business people have ever done jail time for being the drug pushers they are. Somehow it's ok to sentence a parent to prison for bribing a corrupt education official so their kid can get into a good school, yet these corrupt education officials get to walk away without jail time. WTF?

Big pharma just announced they are filing for bankruptcy protection so they can avoid thousands of new lawsuits. The business owners cleaned out the bank vaults and are hiding/stashing billions of dollars in off shore accounts. None of them are facing jail time after consciously and knowingly peddling highly addictive drugs to poor saps with addiction problems. WTF?

You can't always blame only the victim. It's just easier to.

Your analogy is a bit off. Smoking is a decision. Time to put the blame on the individual instead of saying poor thing its not her fault its an addiction.
People quit smoking all the time if they decide to.
But its so hard to do. Suck it up lots of things in life are that way.
I agree on the unequal punishments. Explain how a government with full knowledge of the dangers of smoking while collecting huge sums in taxes is not as culpable as the manufacturer.

 

[Alan W.]

not to say I'm getting old but when I was a kid I remember buying the candy cigarettes at the store I'm playing like i was a adult.. Back when real men smoked Pall Malls or Camels.. how about green stamps....

Ordered a case of the candy cigarettes for stocking stuffers last Christmas. No longer made in the US and no red tips. Supposedly puffing on them made you a pack a day smoker. Sorta like playing with cap guns made you a mass murderer.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Were they Popeye brand? I bought them, but never really liked them as far as candy choices went. Then there were the licorice pipes.

 

[two_bit_score]

You sure you want to go there? I'm thinking of all the money spent on AIDS research, funding of Planned Parenthood and drug treatment.

Good point!

 

[two_bit_score]

Perspective is a funny thing. Are people who wear glasses just too stupid to see without them?

Smokers and drug users are addicted to their habits. Yes I think they are choosing bad behaviours. The root cause issue is they have a physical addiction problem - and their addictions are being exploited by unscrupulous people.

I think the real blame should be on the drug pushers - the businesses of tobacco and big pharma. These businesses have reaped billions of dollars by exploiting people's physiological problems. Yet none of these business people have ever done jail time for being the drug pushers they are. Somehow it's ok to sentence a parent to prison for bribing a corrupt education official so their kid can get into a good school, yet these corrupt education officials get to walk away without jail time. WTF?

Big pharma just announced they are filing for bankruptcy protection so they can avoid thousands of new lawsuits. The business owners cleaned out the bank vaults and are hiding/stashing billions of dollars in off shore accounts. None of them are facing jail time after consciously and knowingly peddling highly addictive drugs to poor saps with addiction problems. WTF?

You can't always blame only the victim. It's just easier to.

I want sick and injured people to have the benefits of great medicine and treatments that can help them or make them well.


If 'big pharma' has created a drug that is illegal and available only through a Doctor and under a controlled treatment program and people get it illegally and abuse it or worse buy something a meth head cooked up in the back of an RV in the middle of the woods or desert then they should be on their own. No publicly funded treatment programs past an initial trial run to give them a 'final chance'. If they are sick from something else and it's complicated by illegal substance use or tobacco, MJ, soda or whatever that is not essential they would have to completely give that substance up in order to get subsidized care. If they can't they should be cot off treatment paid for by tax money.




TBS

 

[DMax82]

I want sick and injured people to have the benefits of great medicine and treatments that can help them or make them well.


If 'big pharma' has created a drug that is illegal and available only through a Doctor and under a controlled treatment program and people get it illegally and abuse it or worse buy something a meth head cooked up in the back of an RV in the middle of the woods or desert then they should be on their own. No publicly funded treatment programs past an initial trial run to give them a 'final chance'. If they are sick from something else and it's complicated by illegal substance use or tobacco, MJ, soda or whatever that is not essential they would have to completely give that substance up in order to get subsidized care. If they can't they should be cot off treatment paid for by tax money.




TBS

But that's the issue and the Crux of the lawsuits. People were obtaining the medicine legally via doctor's supervision. Purdue lied and said it wasn't addictive. Now we have millions of people who simply followed their doctor's orders and are now addicted to a powerful and deadly toxin.

 

[lilranch2001]

But that's the issue and the Crux of the lawsuits. People were obtaining the medicine legally via doctor's supervision. Purdue lied and said it wasn't addictive. Now we have millions of people who simply followed their doctor's orders and are now addicted to a powerful and deadly toxin.

Not in ALL cases.

Plus what idiot has not heard how addictive these meds are?
I was prescribed them 15 years ago, and took them for one day, and decided they were not for me, and have not let a doc prescribe them for me since.

People who has a brain needs to know how to use it!