WARNING ! Ansung misrepresenting

[TheMan419]

Man someone needs to take their medication or something. If you are that offended return the dang thing. That is the best way a consumer can hold a manufacturer responsible. Don't buy their products. Quite simple really. I make that choice every day.

 

[tre873]

Wouldn't it be awesome if he weighs the tiller and it's the weight listed on Ansung's website? Then all of the griping/arguing will be for nothing...

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

Wouldn't it be awesome if he weighs the tiller and it's the weight listed on Ansung's website? Then all of the griping/arguing will be for nothing...

Agreed. And there's also the possible that the tiller works great regardless of what it weighs or what has been changed on the model update. But I'm beginning to think we will never know because I don't think he's going to use it.

I've never considered buying an implement and putting it under a glass case just for exhibition. I've always bought them to use. Silly me.

 

[Catman8]

Rigging weighs 6 lbs.
ER062 tiller without drive shaft 470 lbs - 6 lbs = 464 lbs.
ER062 tiller with driveshaft. 500 lbs -6 lbs = 494 lbs.

 

[fried1765]

Rigging weighs 6 lbs.
ER062 tiller without drive shaft 470 lbs - 6 lbs = 464 lbs.
ER062 tiller with driveshaft. 500 lbs -6 lbs = 494 lbs.

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Advertised 656 lbs. v/s 494 lbs. actual weight?

162 pounds LESS than the manufacturer advertised weight?

In my opinion,...... THAT is a BIG difference !!!

No matter how well the tiller might work, I too would be VERY unhappy about that !!!

 

[TheMan419]

ok so are you returning it or keeping it?

 

[powerscol]

An while your at it I would politely stay out other folks business when they buy a different unit. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...tachments-branded-rototiller.html#post4622289 Post #8 Note polite in my book.

 

[aczlan]

Rigging weighs 6 lbs.
ER062 tiller without drive shaft 470 lbs - 6 lbs = 464 lbs.
ER062 tiller with driveshaft. 500 lbs -6 lbs = 494 lbs.

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Is that all the way off of the ground? Looks almost like the lower end is still touching.
Also, have you checked the accuracy of the scale with something that weighs 4-500#?

Aaron Z

 

[powerscol]

Is that all the way off of the ground? Looks almost like the lower end is still touching.
Also, have you checked the accuracy of the scale with something that weighs 4-500#?

Aaron Z

I noticed he used the tray scale to weight the rigging instead of just showing a picture of the rigging hooked up. Also what is the scale accuracy over its weight range? He is over on another thread now wanting pictures of what folks have as he does not believe without pictures. Strange we have never see a picture of his in use.

 

[Catman8]

Is that all the way off of the ground? Looks almost like the lower end is still touching.
Also, have you checked the accuracy of the scale with something that weighs 4-500#?

Aaron Z

Yes it is off the ground and this is a brand new scale that has been certified and I checked it with weights, so if I went to all the trouble to prove you wrong with new photos your next post would be that I Photo shopped something.

 

[Catman8]

I noticed he used the tray scale to weight the rigging instead of just showing a picture of the rigging hooked up. Also what is the scale accuracy over its weight range? He is over on another thread now wanting pictures of what folks have as he does not believe without pictures. Strange we have never see a picture of his in use.

You sir clearly have some vested interest in this company, please post a photo of your Ansung tiller that you keep telling everyone is a tank and a beast, you probably have no clue what yours weighs. I clearly posted pics with a scale, and if your not familiar with a 1000 lbs scale it will not read light weight accurately that's why you need to use a table scale. Let's see those pictures sport.

 

[adventure bob]

Ok so to the point of the matter: If tiller weight, not function is the issue. is the OP willing to pay for a tiller at the weight the Ansung erroneously portrayed in their ad literature? Did he think he was getting a great deal on comparative weight of the tiller?

I for one am not sure how the weight of the tiller is a purchasing decision other than the shipping costs... I certainly didn't buy my snow blower due to its weight. I didn't buy my bush hog based on weight. I don't think I've ever bought anything for my tractor based on weight, except weights. Why, outside of the error in ad work, is the weight of the tiller such a sticking point? Is the thing reverse rotation? If so the tiller can weigh a lot less and still dig just as deep as it will want to pull into the ground.

 

[powerscol]

I have posted pictures at least three times and currently list the link on the other Ansung post. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...rything-attachments-branded-rototiller-2.html. This is where you wanted to see pictures of everyone tillers. Origional post of my pictures is here.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...ung-terra-force-64-vs-2.html?highlight=tiller post #16

 

[TheMan419]

So the OP still has not indicated what he plans to do. He could return the thing if he feels the weight difference is material to his use or the cost..... or he could have used it and found that everything is just fine and does what he needs it to do.

Or...... he could continue to tilt at windmills.

 

[Catman8]

I drove about 1200 miles round trip to get my tires filled with Rimguard at the only dealer in California that carried it, and he was an Ansung dealer so I figured I would just buy the tiller since I was already there getting my tires filled. We all know I have no intention of driving that far to return it and there is no dealer anywhere that would eat the shipping cost and except the return on these large items.

I posted my buying experience, if it is helpful to you when purchasing a tiller, great. If you previously owned a tiller weighing 656 lbs and are looking to replace yours with a similar weight tiller this thread might be helpful to you when deciding your next purchase.

Once I get around to using the tiller I will post a review, unfortunately most people do not have the luxury of being able to compare different models on the same soil conditions so we have no way of comparing if one tiller would work better than the other.

 

[adventure bob]

I'm not sure a comparison of tiller to tiller is required: The proof of effectiveness is tilled soil per HP/time. Secondary is mean time between maint (MTBM)/mean time between repair (MTBR). Everything else, including weight is just ancillary information. If I have 300lb tiller but can till the same soil of the same size patch 2X faster, isn't that really what matters? Yes there's some "features" that make life easier but how it tills and how often you gotta fix it are the true representations of the quality. Let us know how those things are.

 

[sixdogs]

If it's that important to you, and it sure seems like it is, ship it back. Otherwise it will eat at you and you won't be happy. Have a conversation with the seller and ship it back. Forget about the cost. That's life and emotional stability is worth more than shipping costs. You probably already know this because you drove 1200 miles to get your tires loaded. Just my free advice here.

 

[George2615]

Yes it is off the ground and this is a brand new scale that has been certified and I checked it with weights, so if I went to all the trouble to prove you wrong with new photos your next post would be that I Photo shopped something.

I have the exact same scale. The accuracy class is OIML III
When I bought mine I checked the accuracy of the scale by lifting 1000 lbs of certified weights used by a local elevator company. My scale showed a reading of 998.8 lb or 1.2 lb less than actual weight. I think my scales 1.2 lb difference is slightly more than OIML III +/- limits but I'm glad to have a device capable of weighing my any items or implements and still be within a pound of actual weight.

 

[Catman8]

Adventure Bob, sixdogs, and George2615, Thank you for posting and your advise. This tiller might work great with my size of tractor having 23.5 PTO hp, my being upset is not at the quality or the performance but at the inaccurate specifications, and I am no longer upset and I will keep the tiller and see how she does, a lot of people on this forum said that weight is your friend and tillers need to be heavy so when the tiller weighed less than advertised I was a bit shocked, but having never used a tiller before there probably is not much I could share or give advice on performance do to lack of knowledge in that area. I think companies have a duty to be accurate to the consumer, that is all this thread is geared towards. I'm glad I bought this scale, it's nice to know what things weigh when loading a trailer and the price was very reasonable and George2615, your correct about the specifications on the scale, it also came with a remote control. Adventure bob, thanks for that perspective, I will keep you posted.

 

[George2615]

Catman, Just an FYI, I weighed all my attachments and trailer empty tongue weights then hand painted the weight on each for future reference. Hard to remember as you get older.