Western snow plow on John Deere

[tude]

The Western snow plow is attached to grandfathers 1946 John Deere A. My brother still has both the tractor and snow plow.

 

[5030]

That tricycle front would be a bugger to plow with. I run a 10 foot retired power angle county plow on my M9000 Kubota FWA and it's a bear at times.

 

[Fallon]

That tricycle front would be a bugger to plow with. I run a 10 foot retired power angle county plow on my M9000 Kubota FWA and it's a bear at times.

Just have to rely on steering brakes I expect. That setup has a big red beam going to the rear. So it will be a much more solid mount than floppy loader arms flexing away. It amazes me how much my loader flexes when plowing & doing other normal bucket related loader tasks. That setup may or may not run into issues with the front coming off the ground in float either due to the better geometry.

 

[Thomas]

Rugged looking setup for straight pushing.

 

[5030]

Just have to rely on steering brakes I expect. That setup has a big red beam going to the rear. So it will be a much more solid mount than floppy loader arms flexing away. It amazes me how much my loader flexes when plowing & doing other normal bucket related loader tasks. That setup may or may not run into issues with the front coming off the ground in float either due to the better geometry.

Interesting. My loader don't flex at all. Maybe your bushings are shot. They do wear out, especially if not greased every 10 hours. That really has nothing to do with plow steer anyway. The plow is steering when you push a lot of snow because the weight of the snow deflects the plow (and the tractor) from your desired line of travel. I run chains on my front tires in FWA and none on the back.

Second picture is plow steer from the weight of the pushed snow. With a tricycle front, it would be much worse especially with no FWA. You can brake steer all you want to, it will not alter the direction the plow is taking as the snow forces it (and the tractor) to one side or another.

I do this stuff all the time in the winter. I open that road for a mile to the pavement.

 

[5030]

Here is the road opened up.. For your enjoyment...

 

[CalG]

Here is a western plow on an old tractor.

She get out for exercise every winter..

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/261466-snow-blade-e27n.html?highlight=Fordson

 

[RickB]

I much prefer frame mounted plows to loader mounted plows. One of many reasons is the frame mounted blade is closer to the rear axle. That lessens the effect a pile of snow in front of an angled blade has on the direction of travel.

 

[Fallon]

Both my former L3200 & current L4060 have been this way. I had them since new & grease very often. Bushings are tight at least vertically. There is slop side to side by a substantial fraction of an inch between the arms & frame to slide sideways on the pin from the factory.

I prefer the SSQA plow because of the ease of mounting or dismounting not because of performance. I'm sure that old tractor mounted frame works a bit better.

 

[powersrp]

Here is the road opened up.. For your enjoyment...View attachment 662360

Thats a beast, why not a 8’ snow blower?

 

[5030]

Thats a beast, why not a 8 snow blower?

Have one of them as well, A Lucknow (Helm Welding, Canada) rear mount 7.5 foot 2 stage. Sits in the barn, really don't need it but with the plow on the front, and the blower on the back, I'm basically unstoppable. I can do a 7 foot drift if it's cold and dry but it makes the M9 smoke a bit...:laughing:



My SSQA snowplow mount and 3rd function I made myself in the shop.

 

[5030]

I much prefer frame mounted plows to loader mounted plows. One of many reasons is the frame mounted blade is closer to the rear axle. That lessens the effect a pile of snow in front of an angled blade has on the direction of travel.

Only time mine plow steers is really deep drifted snow (see picture). Couple inches is childs play. I don't even bother plowing until 5 is on the ground. Not much difference between a frame mount and my SSQA, maybe 8" and remember with the cab M9 I have it weighs close to 10K with the plow on. I get 10K cooking down the road at 10 or 12 mph, not much stops it.

 

[5030]

Out here in the sticks, we are fortunate if the road gets plowed a week after a snow event. Sometimes, never, especially when they turn on the road and see I already did it..............:laughing:

 

[RickB]

If you think a frame mount plow sticks out that far that’s ok. I plowed snow with tractors in upstate NY for 45 years so I have seen and used quite a few. I’ve also seen a few loader frames wadded up from hitting fixed objects at high speeds.
Experience is something you get right after you need it.
I cured all my snow removal issues by relocating where God puts it here and I let Him take it away, usually the same day.

 

[5030]

If you think a frame mount plow sticks out that far that’s ok. I plowed snow with tractors in upstate NY for 45 years so I have seen and used quite a few. I’ve also seen a few loader frames wadded up from hitting fixed objects at high speeds.
Experience is something you get right after you need it.
I cured all my snow removal issues by relocating where God puts it here and I let Him take it away, usually the same day.

One, I don't have that option, I own farmland here and I farm it and two, that is what overcenter trip springs are for on a snowplow. The spring trip allows the plow to ride over an object, well maybe not a utility pole but you need to observe things like that.

The only time a loader frame will get 'wadded up' is if the operator is wadded up himself. Plowing snow does have a certain degree of adult responsibility involved.

Been doing it for years with mine (had a smaller plow and sold it and bought the 10 footer) and never an issue.

 

[LouNY]

The Western snow plow is attached to grandfathers 1946 John Deere A. My brother still has both the tractor and snow plow.

Decent setup that will do the job a heck of a lot better then a shovel.
A close coupled plow will work better and be easier to use the a SSQA blade on a front end loader.
I don't see a power angle and those old double ring chains are the roughest riding chains around for a farm tractor.
That said if I didn't have what I do for snow that would work and much better then shoveling by hand.
The first tractor I plowed snow with was an Allis Chalmers WD with that style chain,
those chains do work good in fields with deep snow.

 

[RickB]

I guess I didn’t get the memo about farming with a frame mounted snow plow. I didn’t have or want loaders on all my tractors and didn’t have or want a plow hanging off the loaders I did have. When winter ended the plow and frame came off and the front weights went on. Not everyone thinks the same or wants the same equipment. There simply is no one best way to do much of anything.

 

[5030]

Different strokes for different folks. What works for me, may not for you. I believe my pictures depict how well mine works and I'll leave it at that.

Candidly, I really don't like plowing snow anyway and now that I'm retired, my 'mandatory' plowing consists of clearing my rental drives so that can get to the road and then get stuck.:laughing: