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Hans,

Way ambitious...don't think pictures will even do it justice...
Sounds like a pilgrimage will be required for proper perspective/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif.

Carry on!
 
   / What is wrong with this idea #22  
take a look at some of the Hatz engines. They have one with a quiet pack that is extremly quiet. These engines like many other German engines are oil cooled engines.

With silent pack
http://www.hatz-diesel.com/englisch/motor/motorm41c-e.htm/
 
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Hans: <font color=green>there will be another midatlantic pt test pilot meeting, we are getting together with our lawyer, Charlie, because we are going out on strike .... not enough snow to plow .... yet.</font color=green>

Have I got a deal for you. Trade yer lawyer for a mediator and a power dumper and lets talk.
 

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That is B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L!!!!! /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

We are supposed to get some this week. Hope so /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif
 
   / What is wrong with this idea #26  
<font color=blue> someday, we in the landscape business use these great little machines, hope that Ed and all the rest in Tazwell will hear us and put a 30 hp Deutz in </font color=blue>

This sounds like a description of the PT 1430!!
 
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around here we need to get through these stupid little gates of 48", to access 2-10 acres ... because of the insecurity "little white fences" syndrome. otherwise i agree the 1400 series would be ok. but for easy accessed larger properties and heavier jobs we have a larger Kubota to do that work.

someday we will have an 1800 series machine FOR SURE.
 
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MossRoad <font color=green>We are supposed to get some this week. Hope so</font color=green>

You can have some of ours too; I'm sure Hans won't want it all. We've had three whoppers this season so far and the Muni's are going broke! It's been nearly a week since the last one and they're still working overtime on it, winging it back and back and back, and now running about clearing intersections of snowbanks we can't see over or around.

And beautiful it is indeed,
Sedgewood
 
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<font color=red>an old goldwing motor cycle and drop that engine there.
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Finally, a workable idea. I have a Goldwing motor that only needs a small amount of TLC. I'll put it in the back of Bubenberg's truck when he comes to visit.
 
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Hey Sedgewood - nice photo - would you happen to have a few more photos - to put on - i want to make a decision next week and I am really going back and forth on the 1430 and 1845 - I'm looking for a side profile - I have a 425 new unit - which I am selling

Are you in Columbia county ie north of Dutchess County

I grew up in Dutchess - I am now in CT - I am going to pick up some doors for that shed shown in my photo section probably next week if he is finished with them - the folks are New England wholesale hardwoods in Pine Plains (Dale Mitchell is the owner he knows me) - I think that is in Columbia County - Would love to see an 1845 before I buy it
- Terry at PT also knows me really well but I never looked at the 1845 while I was down there - only the 425 and I looked a little bit at the 1430 - the size of the 1845 is what is really making me think twice
 
   / What is wrong with this idea #31  
yo edambrose: <font color=red>Hey Sedgewood - nice photo - would you happen to have a few more photos - to put on - i want to make a decision next week and I am really going back and forth on the 1430 and 1845 - I'm looking for a side profile</font color=red>

here's one fresh this morning
 

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   / What is wrong with this idea #32  
edambrose: <font color=red>Are you in Columbia county ie north of Dutchess County</font color=red>

Yes

<font color=red>I grew up in Dutchess - I am now in CT - I am going to pick up some doors for that shed shown in my photo section probably next week if he is finished with them - the folks are New England wholesale hardwoods in Pine Plains (Dale Mitchell is the owner he knows me) - I think that is in Columbia County</font color=red>

Pine Plains is right on the Dutchess/Columbia border - I'm about an hour north of there near the intersection of the Taconic State Parkway and I90.

<font color=red>Would love to see an 1845 before I buy it</font color=red>

Come on up/over, whatever.

Here's a front on view, again next to the Tacoma for scale.
 

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Ed here's another picture from quarter on.
 

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   / What is wrong with this idea #34  
Those are some great shots. I never realized the scale of the machine and snow piles until now. Just for more information, how high is the top of your canopy from ground level?
 
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MossRoad: <font color=green>Just for more information, how high is the top of your canopy from ground level?</font color=green>

About 6 feet, which puts the side lip easily within striking distance, */:-( Right Charlie? Btw it would, with some antiskid paint, make a pretty fair work platform - two levels actually, top of engine cover and top of canopy - its plenty strong enough.

edambrose: I guess I've not been paying enough attention here - why are you looking to trade your 425 so soon? It looks like you have it pretty well tricked out.

Sedgewood
 
   / What is wrong with this idea #36  
hey Sedgewood - thanks for all the photos - Well I really love the machine (the 425) - it is just that I want something heavier that will also deal with the hills better - I wish I could have both - but money and space won't allow that

I looked at the 1430 while I was there but not the 1845

when did you get it? - did you test the 1430?

they at PT are pushing towards the 1845 - but I really would prefer the 1430 size -

I understand the differences - 1845 has 600 lbs more weight
the brake tender (does that only act as a park brake or does it also stop the machine, larger wheel motors & trans pump, larger engine and the tilt seat -

probably well worth the extra $4 k - but the main thing I am interested in is the 45hp motor, trans pump, wheel motors
i think i can modify and put the tilt seat on the 1430 and the wheel motors are similar char lynn vs white on the 425

I think the 1845 is 12 inches longer which is alot
(is it 116 inchs front of tire to rear)

how easy is it to turn around -

how does it deal with a full load of dirt in the bucket?

I would imagine that with the longer frame and engine way back - the rear wheel must stay down


how do you like the machine?

I would like to check it out if it is really OK with you

Well sorry for all the questions - I want to try and decide next week

thanks again
 
   / What is wrong with this idea #37  
Ed:
You're closer to John's PT1845 than mine, but if you're driving through Maryland, stop by.
I have the tilt seat, and don't much like it. It had a few electrical gremlins which were challenging, but I solved them. The mercury switches have to be just right - but there is no way to tell without extensive trial and error where "just right" is. Most importantly, the seat tilting doesn't make it that much more comfortable on hills. Even after you get used to it moving, you don't feel more at ease, you just start noticing that it is a little slow (or too fast) to react, and it is an odd feeling not having the seat follow the rest of the machine. Regardless of the slope capability of the tractor, if you can't stay on the seat without it tilting, you don't want to be on that hill anyway.
All that being said, of course, make sure you drive a tilt seat machine on some hills before you decide for sure.
 
   / What is wrong with this idea #38  
Edward,

Couple of questions if you don't mind. I’m in almost the exact same situation as you. I would like to upgrade to a 1430 (or larger) from a 425. I have about 70 hours on my tractor and have had it about 9 months. My questions:

- Will PT take your 425 back in trade?
- Do you intend to use your existing attachments on the larger tractor (with some type of adapter on the quick attach)?
- Looking at your pictures, do you have both the 48” and 60” mowers or is the smaller mower a brush mower?
- Also, if you don’t mind, what type of welder do you use?

Thanks.
 
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edambrose: <font color=green>when did you get it?</font color=green>

About April 1, 02 (nearly 300 hours ago)

<font color=green> - did you test the 1430?</font color=green>

No, in fact I pretty much relied on what I read here on TBN, compared PT's spec and price sheets to home in on what I thought would do the job for me, went down to PT, took a quick spin on the 1845, got the grand tour, and bought it. I did get to demo the PT minihoe when Hans, Charlie and I were down there last fall - that was on a 1430 and frankly I didn't really notice any size difference though I see in the specs the 1845 is about 4 inches wider than the 1430. Didn't find a length for the 1845 but I suspect the 1845 is about 1 Deutz cylinder longer than the 1430.

<font color=green>they at PT are pushing towards the 1845 - but I really would prefer the 1430 size - </font color=green>

Unless the 54 vs 58 inch width is a factor for you I'd lean toward the 1845. Even the 1845 has none too much power for mowing uphill at speed, at least with the 6 ft roughcut I have on it. There have been times I've longed the 1850's power, though without its size and $$.


<font color=green>I understand the differences - 1845 has 600 lbs more weight
the brake tender (does that only act as a park brake or does it also stop the machine, larger wheel motors & trans pump, larger engine and the tilt seat - </font color=green>

The brake tender is a parking brake and also an emergency brake - no hydraulic pressure - no go. Stall the engine & bump your nose when it stops! Forget the seat - see Charlie's post - that's a grand you can save.

<font color=green>probably well worth the extra $4 k - but the main thing I am interested in is the 45hp motor, trans pump, wheel motors
i think i can modify and put the tilt seat on the 1430 and the wheel motors are similar char lynn vs white on the 425</font color=green>

I think its definitely worth the $4k. The weight is a good thing when plowing snow and moving dirt. And of course the power is. It's also quieter than the 1430 though by no means quiet.

<font color=green>I think the 1845 is 12 inches longer which is alot
(is it 116 inchs front of tire to rear)</font color=green>

I'll tape it tomorrow, but if its 116 that's only 3 inches longer than the 1430's 113 I saw on a spec sheet.

<font color=green>how easy is it to turn around - </font color=green>

Easy. But I guess that's relative. Surely easier by a mile than anything else I've ever owned.

<font color=green>how does it deal with a full load of dirt in the bucket?</font color=green>

Just fine with the small bucket I have though you can do the "PT Pucker" if you cut the wheel too hard, especially backing up. There's a good part of a thread on that here somewhere.

<font color=green>I would imagine that with the longer frame and engine way back - the rear wheel must stay down</font color=green>

Yes - until you mount the minihoe, hook a root, then lift and back at the same time - then you can back the tractor right out from under the hoe and go airborn. An interesting variant on the PT Pucker.


<font color=green>how do you like the machine?</font color=green>

I love it. It has its quirks but then so do I! We get along just fine.

<font color=green>I would like to check it out if it is really OK with you</font color=green>

Sure. Send me a private message or email and we'll hook up. I'm the boss of this one man show and can be pretty flexible with the timing.

<font color=green>Well sorry for all the questions - I want to try and decide next week

thanks again</font color=green>

See ya next week maybe,
Sedgewood

Oh yeah, refresh my memory here guys, but isn't the Quick Attach plate bigger on the 1845 than on the 425 making attachments not interchangeable? And which size does the 1430 have - oh yeah - that's right, I bought the minihoe right off the 1430 that day last fall. Guess it's the same as the 1845. Duh. So am I correct in presuming you are selling the whole 425 kit and starting over from scratch with new attachments too?
 
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I was always under the impression that the 400 series attachments won't fit on the other series machines.
 

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