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[ScottFarm]

TractorData.com - John Deere tractors sorted by year

TractorData.com - Montana tractors sorted by model

TractorData.com - Kubota tractors sorted by model

Hope this helps with your research.. I researched all three models for 3 years before I finally bought mine.

Scott

 

[IslandTractor]

I was kinda suprised to see that the Mahindra tractor had higher awards that the Kubota

The Deming award is a very prestigious quality award but it doesn't necessarily mean that the product made by the awardee is better than that made by a competitor. The award recognizes the factory, not the product. The Deming recognizes mostly quality processes in manufacturing and administration. Great award to receive for sure and it clearly shows that Mahindra is a world class organziation but it does not mean that Kubota, JD, NH, Kioti, etc etc don't produce equally good tractors.

 

[ScottFarm]

I agree, It just suprised me when I came across this information. I would have expected it to be Kubota instead of Mahindra. It's an award the companies apply for and is awarded by the japanese themselves. Has Kubota ever won this? Maybe one of the dealers know. Below is a site that tells about it.


JUSE:Union of Japanese Scientists and Engineers:The Deming Prize

 

[flusher]

I agree, It just suprised me when I came across this information. I would have expected it to be Kubota instead of Mahindra. It's an award the companies apply for and is awarded by the japanese themselves. Has Kubota ever won this? Maybe one of the dealers know. Below is a site that tells about it.


JUSE:Union of Japanese Scientists and Engineers:The Deming Prize

These quality awards are not free of charge. A company like Mahindra has to invest a lota bucks (or rupees) to get the quality of its design and manufacturing processes up to a level where it has a chance of winning. So winning one of these quality awards is also an indication of a company's willingness to compete. Many companies with equal or nearly equal quality just decide not to get involved in the competition.

 

[ScottFarm]

Found the answer...



Kubota was the first agricultural machinery manufacturing company in Japan to receive the prestigious "Deming Award," for manufacturing excellence. In 1992, Kubota Corporation received the "Sankei Newspaper Award" as part of the first Global Environment Awards, recognizing the Company痴 continuing contribution to protection of environment. (more information at Kubota)


Kubota Tractor Corporation - Company Information

JUSE:Union of Japanese Scientists and Engineers:the Deming Prize Winners

 

[pitt_md]

I don't design tractors but as a software engineer I see a lot of these kinds of awards. They don't always mean that the company makes a better widget, just that they have put processes in place to track quality control etc.

 

[ScottFarm]

If you compare a Kubota M5700 to a Montana 5740

weight *Montana 5555lbs Cab Kubota 4652 lbs Cab

Engines Montana (4cylinder Mitsibishi) Kubota 5 cylinder Kubota

Hp Montana 57hp *Kubota 61.6 hp

PTO rating Montana 52 Hp Kubota 52Hp

Length Montana *142.05" Kubota 140.6"

Width Montana 68.58" Kubota *72.8

Ground clearance Montana 15.55 inches Kubota ? Does a dealer know?

Transmission Montana 16 sync shuttle Kubota Unknown 8 forward 8 rev

I do know that the Montana sync shuttle is much nicer than the comparable Kubota gears. With the montana you can change gears like a truck on the go without stopping. I think Kubota is only sync between the two high gears. What this means is you have to stop to go change in lower gears.

I'm sure this will get lots of response from Kubota dealers.. Hope these facts help. I do like the weight and the gears better in the Montana. Although you could look at the Kubota L5740 with hydrostatic transmission.

Scott

 

[machmeter62]

I think anyone who thinks they are getting more tractor based on weight; believing the tractor is stronger is missing a major issue? The strength of the tractor is not based on the weight with Kubotas, but the quality of their metals for the castings! Remember, weight can work for or against you, depending on the use. You can always add weight if needed, but if you purchase a tractor that gets its strength with cheaper quality castings, with a lot of impurities in the metal; the end result for strength is the same. One can always add weight, which gives you the option with Kubotas. Also, with the price of fuel in the 21st Century....toting an extra 1000# around when not needed, effects the bottom line too!

 

[Harold_J]

I don't think you cold go wrong with any of the three tractors in your area...

Actually he said he has six relatively close dealers ("Mahindra, MF, Case, Kubota, and JD....and also the Montana").

Apparently everything but the Kubota, JD and Montana have been eliminated after a brief look; I was wondering possibly why? Was it the dealers or the machines themselves? The MF 5400 series ranges 60HP and up and is quite deluxe with 4-range powershift/power shuttle trans, electronic hitch control, etc. Some of the Case's like the U series can be sophisticated also, with 24-speed powershift, hydraulic diff lock. If cost were no object I would take either of these or a NH over a Montana and you could probably get a better price than equivalent JD. JD and Kubota are fine machines as well of course.

 

[Soundguy]

I think anyone who thinks they are getting more tractor based on weight; believing the tractor is stronger is missing a major issue? The strength of the tractor is not based on the weight with Kubotas, but the quality of their metals for the castings! Remember, weight can work for or against you, depending on the use. You can always add weight if needed, but if you purchase a tractor that gets its strength with cheaper quality castings, with a lot of impurities in the metal; the end result for strength is the same. One can always add weight, which gives you the option with Kubotas. Also, with the price of fuel in the 21st Century....toting an extra 1000# around when not needed, effects the bottom line too!

Some of us buyt hat heavy tractor with the weight in mind.. and need it.. and don't intend to make it lighter.

At 50-60$ per suitcase weight from my dealer.. i was glad to have all the 'cast iron' frame weight I could get when i made my tractor selections.. HP without traction is useless in a DB application. And traction with reduced weight is crippled...

soundguy