Which 48" box scraper

patio · Mar 3, 2003

Which 48\" box scraper

Hi all. I'm looking for a box scraper to take care of my gravel drive and finish grading some areas around a new addition. I have a B-7500 to pull it with and after talking to the dealer I've decided to go with a 48 inch unit. But the question now is which 48" unit. Any help would be appreciated.
Patrick

manganos · Mar 3, 2003

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Most of the guys with the 7500 around here use a 5' boxblade but you seem to be set on the 4'. I'm in the market for a 4' to use with my BX22 so I'm going to follow this thread for sure. Did your dealer say you couldn't use a 5' or is it just because you need to fit in tight areas?

bigpete · Mar 3, 2003

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I picked up the United/Leibach box blade, 48" for around $350 (plus or minus, it was bundled with the tractor deal).

Here's a pic of it on the dealer lot. You can see in the background they make a 5' also. Make sure you are looking at the "HD" model. The 48" weighs arounds 325 pounds.

patio · Mar 3, 2003

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The dealer told me to get a four because he said the 7500 would struggle to pull anything larger. I'm thinking he may have a overstock of fours to get rid of. That leads me to another question. Do you think the 7500 would do well with a 5 footer? I think the five footer would do a better job of covering my wheel marks.

bigpete · Mar 3, 2003

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I'm not that informed on the footprint of the 7500, but I think you'd be better off with a 5'. Those who own the 7500 will be able to let you know for sure.

Rick Jay · Mar 3, 2003

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I think the B7500 should handle a 5' boxblade for most jobs. For the grading work you mention, I would think that you would want the widest your tractor could handle.

If you want to split the difference, I believe Kubota lists a couple of different 54" boxblades for their B-series Kubota B-series Implements , but I have no idea how the price compares to other mfgs.

(Hmmmm....I hope that link works. That's the first time I tried a link with the new system. Sure seemed easy.)

My guess is an aftermarket 60" will probably be less then Kubota's 54".

~Rick

Gary_in_Indiana · Mar 3, 2003

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You might want to read this thread. It has lots of info on 5' box blades which I think would apply to 4' box blades as well.

TresCrows · Mar 4, 2003

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Hmmmmmm, nope, I would get the 4 foot box blade. My 2410 can struggle at times with a 4 footer. I have the Kubota 48 7548. I like it. It would be nice if it stuck out further on each side but it covers my tracks! I do not believe that you would get full utility from a larger blade on so small a tractor. Yes, you could pull it in places under some conditions and do some work with it but NOT the full range of work that a boxblade is capable of doing when matched with an appropriate tractor. Ok, if it were a light 5 footer with low sides it might work. Yeah, I know they are going to jump me--and that is OK but I would stick with a nice heavy duty 4 foot unit on a 7500, maybe a 52/54 if you found such a thing might work also. I do a lot with my boxblade. Today I had a trench dug to bury electrical and water lines to my new shop etc. They will leave the trench open for me to back fill--it will be the boxblade that does most of this work and recontours the area afterward. I can move a full box of dirt, soil, rock, I can dig with the rippers down in hard clay but it is a struggle, if I had a 60 inch unit I doubt I could do these things nearly as well. Good luck with whatever ya get. J

theboman · Mar 4, 2003

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I have a 4' box blade that I picked up new for around $325.
It only has three scarifiers when most I've seen have 4. It's not a huge heavy duty model but it'll handle all the soil conditions around my place which has few rocks. I haven't used it to amount to anything but one of these days boy do I have plans.

My box blade is a not name only the dealers name but it's painted with the Landspride color.

Another use is the box blade is an excellent counter weight if you have a FEL.

I'd stick to Kubota recommendations on the size, unless you have softer soil conditions or you get a lighter weight 5' unit.
It's a weight thing. Stay within safe working limits and there's never no need to abuse a Kubota.

jdeerestl · Mar 4, 2003

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I am also currently in this dilemma. I can get a King Kutter 48" for $279 or I can get a Frontier which weighs a hundred pounds more for $480. Thats a big difference. Is the extra weight worth it?

Anonymous Poster · Mar 4, 2003

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I see the Kubota site goes up to 54 inches for the B7500.

Last summer after getting my B2910 I concluded that the max width I should go with was a 5'. A 4' would not have been as wide as my rear tires. I did not think, after digesting input from fellow tbners that my tractor could fully use all the capabilities of a wider box if I got into doing heavy duty stuff.

I think you need a box blade that is a little wider than your rear tires. I would proably go with the narrowest box blade I could get that would cover my tracts. That should maximize you tractors ability to fully utilize the box for heavy ripping. If it is too wide it might just stall the tractor when you get aggressive...

I may just be repeating what some others have already said in this thread...and although I tend to be one of the "bigger is better" guys...sometimes what is really best is to match things size wise.

A big saw with a small motor won't cut wood too well...if you know what I mean...

PS...as I mentioned in a similar thread, I ended up with a KK box blade. I initially wanted better, but was surprised how well the KK works for me. I figure if I need more weight [don't know the weight actually] I will set some concrete blocks on top of it or something else heavy.

Remember the 80/20 rule. 80% of the functionality is bought for the first 20% of the cost... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

buzst · Mar 4, 2003

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Patrick,
Landpride makes a 54" box blade should both cover your tire tracks (very important) and be easily pulled by your b7500.

Anonymous Poster · Mar 4, 2003

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Hi patio--I wouldn't pay more than $300 for a 4 footer. If you need extra ballast, weight can easily be added to the box. --Ken Sweet
Here is a Listing on Ebay that you may find helpful. Ebay 4 ft Box Listing

tdenny · Mar 4, 2003

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Patrick,

I have a 5 footer with my 24 horse tractor. My machine pulls this thing around with absolutely no problem at all. I've never felt even the slightest bog with it. My JD 855 is only slightly larger than the B7500 (which I was originally going to buy). I think you can find a 52 or 54 inch model but you will pay a lot more if they are only available at the Kubota dealer.

5030 · Mar 4, 2003

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My preference is landpride. "bota wants too much and the TSC model is to light gage of metal. Make sure you get curved shank scarifiers that are adjustable and make sure there is a replaceable wear edge on the scraper. If you live in sandy soil area or if you do gravel a lot, you will probably want to apply hard weld to the lower edge of the scraper box to ****** the erosion of the metal which will eventually round off the leading edges of the box.

Daryl

tdenny · Mar 4, 2003

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Landpride makes a really nice box scraper but they are pricey as well. Out here the BB15 "medium" duty box scrapers go for the following prices:

BB15 48" - $525.00
BB15 54" - $545.00
BB15 60" - $580.00

The BB25 Heavy Duty 60" (the dealer told me they don't come smaller) box scrapers go for $625.00

My First Choice box cost me less than $300.00 not including shipping and is as nice as any I've seen (nice design JimMc). Plus it was painted to match my tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Inspector507 · Mar 4, 2003

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Midwest makes a nice 48" box blade. And it comes in orange /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

bartman · Mar 4, 2003

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Henro
I figured the same thing as you did . If I go lighter on the box scraper I can always fill up a couple of 5 gal buckets with concrete and throw them on the back of the box scraper

Still waitin for the snow to melt and then the water to recede before I start doing any work around here

I can still put off the decision for a few more weeks

Bartman

19th_VA · Mar 5, 2003

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Personally I don't think you can do better than Midwest for the $. Even taking $ out, they make fine equipment. Of course, finding a dealer is not easy but where there's a will....

theboman · Mar 5, 2003

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I was wrong on the price I paid for my box blade. My 4' was under $275. I checked the ol' check book to double check my math.