Which one?

[mowtowblowload]

Trust me, I'll be saving my pennies to buy this tractor. If I had that much money, I'd just keep buying them till I found the right one. Or I'd even hire someone else to do the work... I can just picture it, 7 scantilly clad maidens in white blouses and plaid skirts doing all the work on their hands and knees.... uh what was I saying again?

 

[Botabill]

Do you mean, you see NO long term advantage? I was confused by your post, sorry just making sure I read it right.
But I do agree that maybe a smaller tractor would be adequate for my needs.
I would like to clear the .5 acre, and maybe till the ground for a garden, not all of it mind you. Afterwards I would use it for snow removal, mowing, and the odd job here and there. Who knows I may end up clearing more of the land, I do heat with wood afterall.
Thanks for all the info guys, it is very helpfull, even if I find myself bouncing back and forth between tractors.lol

I just meant with 3.5 acres of wooded land, and .5 acres landscaped. and you wanting to clear some of the woods, aprox another .5 acres That will be done in no time at all even with a Kubota BX SCUT. What will you have to do long term if you get a bigger tractor and finish the job more quickly. Tractor work is fun in the amount you have to do I wouldn't be in a big sweat to get it done too quickly. If you get more pleasure out of a larger tractor though go for it.

 

[Botabill]

Thanks guys for all the advice, I priced a new Kubota b 3200 which replaces the 7800, and has more power 32hp, and I can get it for 17500. bare. the loader would be 4000 more, these are retail prices, and can be bargained. I also priced a bunch more k's while I was there, if you're curious I'll post em.

Whatever you get you MUST get a loader. More than doubles your uses and resale value.

 

[mowtowblowload]

I wasn't disagreeing with you bot, I just didn't under stand your post, it said
"I see long term advantages with either the k or the jd"
I actually agree completely with you, I'm in no hurry to finish.

 

[mowtowblowload]

I'm leaning towards K BX 2660, or JD 2305

 

[kozak]

Moto,

If you think that's all the machine you will need then I think the 4010 is slightly a better pick. Now I did'nt look at all the specs for comparison, just basing this upon a 25% PTO lift advantage over the JD 2305 & Bota BX 2660. That's a big difference in my books for a machine that is very similar in size & weight. I would think this would also transfer over to a lift advantage on the FEL as well. (Don't know what the 4010 FEL lift is)

Your getting two sets of rims & tires on that 4010. If you get the snowblower for an additional $2,000 & it is a front mount........GO FOR IT !!

Get some additional weight for the rear & you would be all set up for the winter.

Vic

 

[mowtowblowload]

The blower is rear mount. The problem is that they dont make the loader for it anymore, or the brackets anyway, and it doesnt have either. The dealer wanted to get some brackets made for it to mount a loader, cx200 I believe.
The 2305 is about 17,600 with 200cx loader, and sb11 blower. plus tax, which brings it to 19,900

 

[kozak]

Man, that's a drag about the 4010 FEL. What's even worse is that price for a small tractor. MY GOD.....I thought the prices had come down. They don't call them Dear for nothing. Well.....I gues you are getting a Blower with it as well.

You do realize you can get quite a bit more tractor if you looked at a Kioti for that same price. Not sure if you have a Dealer close to you.

I bought my deluxe 35 HP Class III NH Boomer for $23 K with FEL used & 79 Hours in 2004 when Canadians were getting slaughtered on the price tag.
I just can't see paying that for a small tractor.



Vic

 

[Gittyup]

Everyone always says a good dealer is critical, and I agree. But, I don't really believe the dealer needs to be that close. If it's a new tractor, and you are able and willing to do your own maintenance, then I don't see a compelling reason to HAVE to buy from a dealer close by. I've had my JD 425 for 15+ years. It's been to the dealer a grand total of one time. One should have a similar experience with any good quality machine as long as dealer preparation is also first-rate and the machine is well maintained.

And if you agree with this, then it might be worth driving a bit to look at other brands. Not that there is anything wrong with the tractors you are considering. But, you might find you can get more tractor for less money. I bought my Kioti from a dealer over 250 miles away even though there is one less than 40 miles away. Have no problem doing this either because the dealer I bought from is excellent and stands by their products no matter how far away I am. I also buy my maintenance parts from him and just have them shipped to me. Shipping cost vs. gas to the closer dealer is about a wash.

Of course there are many, for their own rightful reasons, who wouldn't agree with this approach and think the dealer MUST be close by.

 

[kozak]

I totally agree with Giityupman !!

When I was originally looking I was hoping to deal with a Case Dealer about 2 miles from me. W A Y too much money.

Ended up buying from a Dealer 30 miles away. Fortunately, in 4 years have not needed any repairs requiring Dealer.

WHoooooo-Wheeeee !!

 

[PlumCrazy814]

For clearing trees, best to use a chain saw and when you have cut down what you want down, go rent a stump grinder for a few days.

I had my previous CUT for 15 years, beat the carp out of it, and never had it to the dealer. I did have to break it down to replace a coupling for the front drive, though. I think the part cost $20. The advantage of having a dealer close is being able to gets parts easily and quickly if you need them. Hopefully they will still be in business when you need that part.

I wouldn't count on a FEL on a small tractor for breaking ground, if that's what you have in mind.

As other's have stated, if you intend to stomp through the woods go for high clearance.

The JD2305 has a design flaw with where the transaxle oil filter and hydro cooling fan are located. If you go that route and intend to drive it through the woods, install a skid plate on the rear.

 

[mowtowblowload]

Dumb question... What does MFWD stand for?

 

[mowtowblowload]

What's the difference between a front and rear snowblower, besides the obvious.
and what are the major diffderences in mower decks. cutting, size, ease of installation etc..

 

[Diamondpilot]

MFWD is a fancy way of saying 4x4. Your neck will know the difference if you get a rear blower versus a front. Guess it depends how much snow you get/money you want to spend.

As for mowers they all do about the same in the finish mower category. Rear mount is not as maneuverable but cost less and will work on any tractor with 3 point and pto. Belly mower is more maneuverable but a pain to take on and off plus really lowers your ground clearance when doing other chores and left on. They are also tractor specific for the most part so you need a special one for your tractor.

Chris

 

[WilliamBos]

Dumb question... What does MFWD stand for?

MFWD-Mechanical Front Wheel Drive, aka FWA- Front Wheel Assist.

And these terms should never be confused with 4wd. Example - MT900B Articulated 4-Wheel Drive Tractor

 

[mowtowblowload]

Well I guess I've decided to get a subcompact, I have 4 brochures on the floor in front of me, and am comparing models. I haven't heard much about the Cub cadet sc2400, it looks nice, and the specs are good compared to others, does anyone have any experience with them. The local dealer has 3 of them in stock with loaders and mmm.
The other 3 brands and models are the Kubota BX2360, the JD 2305, and the Massey Fergusson GC2400.
I can get all of these locally which is important to me. and there are more than one dealer for some of them within 50 miles anyway.
It's very hard to make a decision based upon specs, since they all compare so closely.
I guess I want to base my decision on 1) reliability,2) Ease of operation,3) comfort,4) price, 5) parts availlability, 6) service, NOT neccesarily in that particular order.

 

[WilliamBos]

Well I guess I've decided to get a subcompact, I have 4 brochures on the floor in front of me, and am comparing models. I haven't heard much about the Cub cadet sc2400, it looks nice, and the specs are good compared to others, does anyone have any experience with them. The local dealer has 3 of them in stock with loaders and mmm.
The other 3 brands and models are the Kubota BX2360, the JD 2305, and the Massey Fergusson GC2400.
I can get all of these locally which is important to me. and there are more than one dealer for some of them within 50 miles anyway.
It's very hard to make a decision based upon specs, since they all compare so closely.
I guess I want to base my decision on 1) reliability,2) Ease of operation,3) comfort,4) price, 5) parts availlability, 6) service, NOT neccesarily in that particular order.

I say go MF. You will not regret it.

God luck, and keep us posted.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Go sit on all of them and make them let you drive each. Go with the one that is most comfortable for you, has a good dealership, and good parts stock. Ask to see the service dept. Go back in the shop and look around, talk to them guys.

Get what you like. It seems like the ones you are looking at are very similar in performance. If its a few $$$ more so what. You would not buy and new car you don't like because its $800 less than the one you really want.

Chris

 

[mowtowblowload]

Good points diamond, thanks.

 

[john_bud]

Well I guess I've decided to get a subcompact, I have 4 brochures on the floor in front of me, and am comparing models. I haven't heard much about the Cub cadet sc2400, it looks nice, and the specs are good compared to others, does anyone have any experience with them. The local dealer has 3 of them in stock with loaders and mmm.

Last I heard, the Cub Cadet's were made by Yanmar. The same folks that made the JD 790 and 990 tractors for years and years. Very reliable.

jb