Why are deck over trailers (usually) only rated for 10k?

[Illini22]

Most, if not every deck over I see are only rated for 10k pounds?

 

[ShowroomShine]

I sell 3 different brands of trailers (Felling, Interstate, Towmaster), all of them have deckovers rated to 70K lbs. What weight are you trying to haul?

 

[bcp]

Is there a legal reason? For example, I see many trailers rated at 2990, because 3000+ requires brakes.

Bruce

 

[RedNeckRacin]

I think it has to do with what can be hauled behind a pickup without requiring a medical card. IIRC its a 10k or under trailer OR a GCWR of less than 17klbs. It has nothing to do with what is able to be produced.

 

[Furu]

I would have said that it was the other way around. I have rarely seen a deck between over 14K but deck overs go way up in weight ratings just as Showroom shine stated. Look at every trailer being towed with an excavator behind a dump truck. They are rated at at least 24-35 and all are deck overs.

 

[3930dave]

Up here, you need a Class A CDL for 10,000+ lbs.

A lot of light trailers are marketed with that in mind. As stated, deckovers should be available near you well in excess of 10k#.

Rgds, D.

 

[Will_C]

My brother has a 40k deck over for his excavating business. You are right about the 10 k trailers-it keeps you out of CDL territory. I had a single axle trailer that was rated for 2990lbs, although it had a 3500 lb axle- anything over 3 k requires brakes here in NY.

Will

 

[bdog]

My Belshe deck over has a GVWR of 21k and is a pintle hitch.

I assume you are looking at bumper pull? That probably has a lot to with it. Unless you get into the pintle hitch style for pulling behind something like a dump truck going over 10k on a bumper pull type trailer isn't a really good idea.

 

[ShowroomShine]

My Belshe deck over has a GVWR of 21k and is a pintle hitch.

I assume you are looking at bumper pull? That probably has a lot to with it. Unless you get into the pintle hitch style for pulling behind something like a dump truck going over 10k on a bumper pull type trailer isn't a really good idea.

Why does the connection matter? The equipment trailers I use for work can carry up to 15K, one is a 2" ball hitch, one is a pintle. Dont think one being a pintle automatically makes it heavier duty.

 

[RickB]

Why does the connection matter? The equipment trailers I use for work can carry up to 15K, one is a 2" ball hitch, one is a pintle. Dont think one being a pintle automatically makes it heavier duty.

I highly doubt that 2" ball coupler (or the ball itself) is rated anywhere near 15K#. If either component is rated for less, hauling more presents a liability problem in the event of failure.

 

[ShowroomShine]

I highly doubt that 2" ball coupler (or the ball itself) is rated anywhere near 15K#. If either component is rated for less, hauling more presents a liability problem in the event of failure.

What do you think the pintle part of my truck hitch is comprised of? A ball (2 5/16" I think) and a clamp over top to close the loop.

The other trailer may be a 2 5/16" and not 2", but still. The style of hitch should not indicate whether the trailer is a bumper pull or not heavy duty.

 

[bdog]

The highest rated 2" ball I have seen is around 7,500lb. I have seen pintle hitches rated at 100,000lb. The ball hitch pintle combo you are talking about is designed to be handy for people moving light trailers with different hitch styles. This is the hitch I have on my dump truck. 50-Ton Pintle Hook, 6-Hole Pattern (PH50) | Welcome to Buyers Products Company It is rated for a 100k trailer and a 20k tongue weight.

A hitch doesn't always dictate the strength of a trailer but when a trailer has a 2" ball you know it can't be good for much more than 7,500 lb and when you see a trailer with a heavy pintle ring it just might be stout enough for a bull dozer.

 

[bdog]

What do you think the pintle part of my truck hitch is comprised of? A ball (2 5/16" I think) and a clamp over top to close the loop.

The other trailer may be a 2 5/16" and not 2", but still. The style of hitch should not indicate whether the trailer is a bumper pull or not heavy duty.

This is the hitch I have on my pickup. It is overkill for sure but it is what I have. 30-Ton Pintle Hook (PH30) | Welcome to Buyers Products Company Note it is rated for 60k gross and 15k tongue.

This is similar to what you said you have - HITCH,COMBINATION,RECEIVER MOUNT,6TON,2-5/1 (RM62516) | Welcome to Buyers Products Company note it is only rated for 12,000 lb gross and 2,000 lb tongue.

 

[RickB]

Why does the connection matter? The equipment trailers I use for work can carry up to 15K, one is a 2" ball hitch, one is a pintle. Dont think one being a pintle automatically makes it heavier duty.

What do you think the pintle part of my truck hitch is comprised of? A ball (2 5/16" I think) and a clamp over top to close the loop.

The other trailer may be a 2 5/16" and not 2", but still. The style of hitch should not indicate whether the trailer is a bumper pull or not heavy duty.

Pretty scary that you are selling trailers.

 

[Fordman1981]

Pretty scary that you are selling trailers.

Not to beat up on the guy but I was thinking the same thing.

 

[RickB]

Not to beat up on the guy but I was thinking the same thing.

I'm not beating up on anyone. I'm stating the blind obvious.

 

[ShowroomShine]

Pretty scary that you are selling trailers.

Care to explain? I was simply pointing out to another poster that if you see 10K trailers, and one has a pintle and one with a ball that does not automatically make one more heavy duty than the other.

However, I do appreciate your concern on my ability to sell trailers.

 

[Fordman1981]

Care to explain? I was simply pointing out to another poster that if you see 10K trailers, and one has a pintle and one with a ball that does not automatically make one more heavy duty than the other. However, I do appreciate your concern on my ability to sell trailers.

I think the concern is you think a 15k trailer can be pulled with a 2" ball. We all make mistakes when we post but if you sale trailers the weight limit on hitch setups should be common knowledge for you.

 

[ultrarunner]

My contractor has a heavy duty trailer rated for 12,000 lbs with a 2" ball

He uses this 12k rated ball

Hitch Ball with 2" Diameter Ball, 12,000 lbs GTW - Chrome Curt Balls 40038\


I have a 2 5/16 ball rated for 30k

CURT Manufacturing - CURT Trailer Ball #40085

 

[ShowroomShine]

I think the concern is you think a 15k trailer can be pulled with a 2" ball. We all make mistakes when we post but if you sale trailers the weight limit on hitch setups should be common knowledge for you.

I corrected myself in a later post, it is a 2 5/16" ball.

Also, its "sell" not "sale".