Why do you hate MTD?

GerardC · Mar 27, 2005

That didn't help mine one bit.
Neither did taking it to 2 different shops 8 or 10 times for the same problem.

Yeah I just love MTD 

HELLLOOOOO! B&S IS NOT a part of MTD manufacturing!! Your statement is FOUL! Gerard

LBrown59 · Mar 27, 2005

( That didn't help mine one bit.
Neither did taking it to 2 different shops 8 or 10 times for the same problem.

Yeah I just love MTD 

HELLLOOOOO! B&S IS NOT a part of MTD manufacturing!! * Your statement is FOUL! Gerard )
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 * Not when MTD didn't correct the problem with the engine.
Makes me wonder if MTD wasn't using defective or second rate engines.

GerardC · Mar 27, 2005

KOHLER engines are available on many MTD products. Maybe you should go and see for yourself. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Gerard

mwood · Mar 28, 2005

Gerald has a point. The engine is not the fault of the manufacturer.

I had very good luck with older Briggs engines (early 90's). I had horrible luck with Briggs engines up from around 95 - 2002. I just got a Bolens tiller from Lowes with a 6.5 horse Briggs and have had nothing but good luck from the engine. My point? All engine manufacturers have good designs and bad ones.

Learn about the engine before buying the equipment. It's that simple.

LBrown59 · Mar 28, 2005

( KOHLER engines are available on many MTD products. Maybe you should go and see for yourself. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Gerard )

==============So what good is that if MTD don't stand behind their tractor??

LBrown59 · Mar 28, 2005

( Gerald has a point.
* The engine is not the fault of the manufacturer.

I had very good luck with older Briggs engines (early 90's). I had horrible luck with Briggs engines up from around 95 - 2002. I just got a Bolens tiller from Lowes with a 6.5 horse Briggs and have had nothing but good luck from the engine. My point? All engine manufacturers have good designs and bad ones.

1*Learn about the engine before buying the equipment. It's that simple. )

* I disagree: MTD sells the tractor they owe the customor the performance.
It's called implied warranty.

*Not Quite as there is the fitness for intended purpose thing.

GerardC · Mar 28, 2005

So what good is that if MTD don't stand behind their tractor??

Who said that MTD doesn't stand behind their products????? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

GerardC · Mar 28, 2005

I disagree: MTD sells the tractor they owe the customor the performance.
It's called implied warranty. 

Over the weekend we had my Aunt and Uncle over for Easter. Parked in our driveway was an $83,000+ Mercedes-Benz that he purchased only 6 months ago. When they were leaving we noticed a bubble the vertical length of the sidewall from the rim to the tread on the front passenger side that stuck out about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif. Does that make the/a Mercedes-Benz JUNK?????? Please.

slowrev · Mar 29, 2005

I have a 10 yr old MTD self propelled walk behind that is down right now because my wife loaned it to a cousin and he bent the crank on a stump. So I guess MTD's are junk.
BTW the deck has ZERO rust after 10 years, looks to be powdercoated. I did have to replace the drive chain once, but have done nothing else to it except a few oil changes. I am going to put a new crank in it and use it for at least 5 more years /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
This mower lived in Tampa Florida for 7 years multching that tough viney stuff they call grass down there twice a week for most of the year.
I even bought another MTD self propelled walk behind last year when the crank got bent on my old one.
Ben

GerardC · Mar 29, 2005

( I did have to replace the drive chain once, but have done nothing else to it except a few oil changes. I am going to put a new crank in it and use it for at least 5 more years /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif)

Things like that can happen to ANY machine.

I also have a self propelled MTD that's going on about 4 years. I've never had any problems with it. As with yours there is no rust, starts on the first or second pull and I'm sure I'll have it another 10 years.

LBrown59 · Mar 29, 2005

( I have a 10 yr old MTD self propelled walk behind that is down right now because my wife loaned it to a cousin and he bent the crank on a stump. So I guess MTD's are junk.
BTW the deck has ZERO rust after 10 years, looks to be powdercoated. I did have to replace the drive chain once, but have done nothing else to it except a few oil changes. I am going to put a new crank in it and use it for at least 5 more years /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
This mower lived in Tampa Florida for 7 years multching that tough viney stuff they call grass down there twice a week for most of the year.
I even bought another MTD self propelled walk behind last year when the crank got bent on my old one.
Ben
)
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I have a 10 yr old MTD self propelled walk behind that is down right now because my wife loaned it to a cousin and he bent the crank on a stump. So I guess MTD's are junk.
slow rev

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And I guess taking my power craft MTD L&G tractor into the dealer over and over and over again for the same problem that was never fiixed during the 3 year warranty period makes it a quality product.

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GerardC · Mar 29, 2005

And I guess taking my power craft MTD L&G tractor into the dealer over and over and over again for the same problem that was never fiixed during the 3 year warranty period makes it a quality product.

No, that tells me that the mechanic/repair shop didn't know what the h___ they were doing.

ThistleKop · Mar 29, 2005

This mower lived in Tampa Florida for 7 years multching that tough viney stuff they call grass down there twice a week for most of the year.


Ben, mowing in Fla., it was sandblasted everytime it was used. Probably explains no rust. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

TK

JINMA224XR · Mar 30, 2005

I had very good luck with older Briggs engines (early 90's). I had horrible luck with Briggs engines up from around 95 - 2002. I just got a Bolens tiller from Lowes with a 6.5 horse Briggs and have had nothing but good luck from the engine 

Hey MWood,

Hey Guys, you'all talking about Briggs & Stratton engines, made me remember that the 12hp B&S engine in my MTD, is an I/C (industrial/commercial)motor. Now I don't know if that makes a lot of difference, but I have noticed that not all of the B&S engines are I/C motors. And I do have 17 years on mine, mowing about 1 1/2 acres.

And I do remember looking back, that I did want the I/C motor, in hopes that it would be more durable.

Anybody have any idea, how much I might get for my 17 year old MTD, if I repaint it and not tell them how old it is. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I may sell the MTD, and put the money's toward a 3point hitch mower for my bigger tractor.

Have a nice day,
Joe /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

LBrown59 · Mar 30, 2005

( I had very good luck with older Briggs engines (early 90's). I had horrible luck with Briggs engines up from around 95 - 2002. I just got a Bolens tiller from Lowes with a 6.5 horse Briggs and have had nothing but good luck from the engine 

Hey MWood,

Hey Guys, you'all talking about Briggs & Stratton engines, made me remember that the 12hp B&S engine in my MTD, is an I/C (industrial/commercial)motor. Now I don't know if that makes a lot of difference, but I have noticed that not all of the B&S engines are I/C motors. And I do have 17 years on mine, mowing about 1 1/2 acres.

And I do remember looking back, that I did want the I/C motor, in hopes that it would be more durable.

Anybody have any idea, how much I might get for my 17 year old MTD, if I repaint it and not tell them how old it is. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I may sell the MTD, and put the money's toward a 3point hitch mower for my bigger tractor.

Have a nice day,
Joe /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif )
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Hey Guys, you'all talking about Briggs & Stratton engines, made me remember that the 12hp B&S engine in my MTD, is an I/C (industrial/commercial)motor.
*** Now I don't know if that makes a lot of difference, but I have noticed that not all of the B&S engines are I/C motors. And I do have 17 years on mine, mowing about 1 1/2 ac
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*** The I/C (industrial/commercial)motor. is the problem engine in my Wards PowerCraft MTD.
Seems like the engines are OK but there is a design flaw in the carburation.
This being the case no mechanic can fix it no matter how good he is.

slowrev · Mar 30, 2005

en, mowing in Fla., it was sandblasted everytime it was used. Probably explains no rust.
//
Yep, but It has been up here in KY for 3 years......
It is still good and green on the underside. btw it is green and yellow, maybe it is a Deere hiding out under the Yardman label /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Ben

slowrev · Mar 30, 2005

the IC or Beiggs engines with cast iron sleeve will last a long time. The aluminum bore Briggs are a very limited lifespan motor.

Ben

LBrown59 · Mar 30, 2005

( And I guess taking my power craft MTD L&G tractor into the dealer over and over and over again for the same problem that was never fiixed during the 3 year warranty period makes it a quality product.

No, that tells me that the mechanic/repair shop didn't know what the h___ they were doing. )

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 I must have taken it back to the shop 8 to 10 times during the 3 years.
On top of that I took it to another repair shop another 3 or 4 times after the warranty period and it was the same deal the problem wasn't fixed there either.

Next I installed a new CARB and it ran fine for a month or 2 then right back to the same old problem.

This tells me It's a lemon and no amount of working on it by anybody no matter how good they are will ever fix it.

You can't blame a lemon on the mechanic.
You have to give him something decent to work with before he can do anything with it !

LBrown59 · Mar 30, 2005

( the IC or Beiggs engines with cast iron sleeve will last a long time.
Ben

)
But I can't keep or get the engine to run right so what good is that to me.????

LBrown59 · Mar 30, 2005

( I disagree: MTD sells the tractor they owe the customor the performance.
It's called implied warranty. 

Over the weekend we had my Aunt and Uncle over for Easter. Parked in our driveway was an $83,000+ Mercedes-Benz that he purchased only 6 months ago. When they were leaving we noticed a bubble the vertical length of the sidewall from the rim to the tread on the front passenger side that stuck out about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif.
* Does that make the/a Mercedes-Benz JUNK?????? Please. )

No but it don't absolve M B from the obligation of making the tire right with you uncle any more than a defective B&S engine on my MTD relives MTD of their obligation to make the engine problem right with me.

Why do you hate MTD?

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